Thanks, Doug. This explains the various news reports.
From: Doug Church via Mifnet <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2025 7:31 PM To: mifnet@lists.mifnet.com Cc: Doug Church <dchurc...@gmail.com> Subject: [Mifnet 🛰 72780] Re: FW: Honeywell Surf-A question Bob, it appears these are two different programs from Honeywell - one being installed by Southwest and the other awaiting certification next year. That is how I read this, in this story. https://aerospaceglobalnews.com/news/southwest-arms-737-fleet-with-honeywell-smart-tech-amid-scrutiny-over-runway-safety/ -Doug On Tue, Jun 17, 2025 at 4:43 PM bob.poole--- via Mifnet <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com <mailto:mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> > wrote: Two news items crossed my screen today, Aviation Week reports that “Honeywell Closes in on Certificate for Onboard Runway Incursion Alerts.” Today’s Wall Street Journal reports that Southwest decided to outfit its entire fleet with this system in early 2024. This article implies that much of its fleet is now equipped. But how can this be the case if it is only now getting certified? BTW, an ATC colleague now in Australia (Mike Gahan) emailed me this morning recalling having been at a demonstration in Syracuse (Hancock Airport) 20 years ago where the prototype was demonstrated, and he still has videos of pilots asking “When can we have this?” I’d appreciate any answer to the difference between what Av Week and WSJ report. Also, any speculation or otherwise about what took the FAA so long? --Bob Poole -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Revised: 20250507 You are receiving The Mifnet because you requested to join this list. The Mifnet is largely a labor of love, however the infrastructure isn't exactly cost-free. If you'd care to make a small contribution to the effort, please know that it would be greatly appreciated: https://wardell.us/url/mifbit All posts sent to the list should abide by these policies: 1) List members acknowledge that participation in Mifnet is a privilege--not a right. 2) Posts are always off the record, absent specific permission from the author. 3) The tone of discussions is collegial. 4) Posts are expected to be in reasonably good taste. 5) We discuss ideas and not personalities, and we don't speak ill of other Mifnet members. * The Mifnet WEB SITE is: https://www.mifnet.com/ * To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at any time please visit: https://lists.mifnet.com/ OR: SEND THIS MESSAGE via email: mifnet-requ...@lists.mifnet.com?subject=leave <http://mifnet-requ...@lists.mifnet.com?subject=leave> * Send Mifnet mailing list POSTS/SUBMISSIONS to: mifnet@lists.mifnet.com <mailto:mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> * You may reach the person managing The Mifnet at: mifnet-ow...@lists.mifnet.com <mailto:mifnet-ow...@lists.mifnet.com> * Please consider the DIGEST version of The Mifnet, which consolidates all list traffic into 1-3 messages daily. See instructions at: https://lists.mifnet.com/ * Manage your personal Mifnet SUBSCRIPTION at: https://lists.mifnet.com/ * For a list of all available Mifnet commands, SEND THIS MESSAGE via email: mifnet-requ...@lists.mifnet.com?subject=help <http://mifnet-requ...@lists.mifnet.com?subject=help> * View The Mifnet LIST POLICIES and PRIVACY POLICY at: https://mifnet.com/index.php/policies * View instructions for Mifnet DELIVERY PROBLEMS at: https://mifnet.com/index.php/delivery-problems * View The Mifnet LIST ARCHIVE at: https://lists.mifnet.com/hyperkitty/list/mifnet@lists.mifnet.com/
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