Ok. So the tariffs only apply to widebody aircraft? Well, and perhaps also to single-aisle aircraft assembled in Europe which Delta canβt use because the interiors may be incomplete.
Sorry but the pieces donβt line up with tariffs, even if Delta wants to spin it that way -- Karl > On Jul 15, 2025, at 10:40 PM, Tom Ronell via Mifnet <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> > wrote: > > > "And if DA is really doing it to avoid tariffs, why aren't all the other > airlines doing the same thing? And why fly them to Japan rather than take > delivery in Toulouse?" > > It is A330s and A350s which are going to Japan to be put on revenue flights > and thus enter USA as not-new aircraft. DL is receiving Toulouse and Hamburg > A320s and A321s, two of which are not going anywhere, along with Mobile > A220s. > > TR > From: Karl L. Swartz via Mifnet <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> > To: Mifnet <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> > CC: Karl L. Swartz <k...@kls2.com> > Date: Jul 16, 2025 04:03:58 > Subject: [Mifnet π° 73113] Re: Delta's canny move > > Bob, you nailed it: > >> And if DA is really doing it to avoid tariffs, why aren't all the other >> airlines doing the same thing? > > United and American are both taking delivery of a steady stream of Airbus > aircraft. Some are from Mobile but many are coming from XFW (and maybe TLS > though Iβve not noticed that for any of Unitedβs A321neos). > > Beyond whole aircraft, aircraft from Mobile are assembled with many major > components that are shipped (by sea) from Europe. Wouldnβt those components > be subject to import tariffs? > > -- Karl > >> On Jul 14, 2025, at 7:57 PM, Bob Robeson via Mifnet <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com >> <mailto:mifnet@lists.mifnet.com>> wrote: >> >> All I can tell you is that used to be my line of work. I'm not aware of any >> change in the system, but as I said it's been awhile. But if DA is taking >> delivery of A320 series aircraft built the the US perhaps they are taking it >> offshore to avoid state sales tax, which was often done with Boeng airplanes >> delivered to US purchasers. There is a lot of crappy reporting about tariffs >> even in the business press. And if DA is really doing it to avoid tariffs, >> why aren't all the other airlines doing the same thing? And why fly them to >> Japan rather than take delivery in Toulouse? 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