To what do you attribute the delays over Europe when Eurocontrol puts flow control and arrival control restrictions - aka slot times - on aircraft? Particularly in the busier summer months.If multiple airlines from multiple countries all want to get their paying customers from Europe (various) to Tenerife on a Friday, all vying for a similar departure time (because this is what their paying customers want), how is this in the airlines' power to control?Simon -------- Original message --------From: ATHGroup--- via Mifnet <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> Date: 17/07/2025 00:12 (GMT+00:00) To: David Wardell <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> Cc: "athgr...@baiada.com" <athgr...@baiada.com> Subject: [Mifnet đź›° 73127] And This Will Do Nothing For Airline Delays  Even if Duffy gest all the funds he wants in a timely manner (not likely), this upgrade will do nothing for ATC delays. Air traffic control overhaul to cost $31.5 billion, transportation secretary tells Congress ATC does not cause delays. “ATC Delays” are a myth that everyone just keeps repeating without a basis in fact. Does ATC vector and delay aircraft near the airport - of course. But ATC is simply reacting to the "day of", random point overload that airlines/operators allowed to occur (described below), which was evident and preventable by the individual airline/operator hours prior to landing. Of course, an equipment failure would cause a delay, but these are Air Navigation Service Provider (ANSP, e.g., NATS, FAA, etc.) delays and not “ATC” delays. There is a difference. While leaving separation and safety to ATC, airlines must step up and take over the real time, “day of” management over the movement of their aircraft to offload ATC to reduce system stress and integrate the airline’s business needs into the flow. This alone would have a huge positive impact on our aviation infrastructure. The solution is simple - if airlines prevented the stress created by the "day of" random point overload by managing their aircraft in real time, beginning hours prior to landing, so as to deliver a stable, predictable, business based, pre sequenced aircraft flow to the airport, ATC won't need to vector or delay the aircraft to sequence the flow.  A pre-sorted aircraft arrival flow into an airport (managed by the individual airline/user) = less vectoring = less stress = less delay = less fuel = less CO2 = a more efficient and safer airline and ATC system, and it starts with “day of” aircraft management by the individual airline, not ATC. MichaelxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxR. Michael Baiadacell - (303) 521-6047rmbai...@greenlandings.netÂ
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