JSX is operating out of TEB (they are actually not the only ones..) They restrict the flights to their loyalty program members, rather than selling the flights to all comers. They aren’t ‘holding out’ for sale to the general public so don’t violate the airport prohibition on flights held out to the public for sale. I wrote about this recently https://viewfromthewing.com/jsx-just-unlocked-access-to-nycs-forbidden-private-jet-airport-heres-the-secret-to-booking-a-seat/
My first thought with the Aero VNY service, based on the linked article, was that this was a Four Seasons charter – but Aero does sell the seats on their website. So I looked a bit more into it and it appears that the restrictions aren’t as tight as at TEB – they prohibit scheduled operations, adopting the FAA’s definition (which doesn’t include scheduled charters sold under part 380), and while they don’t like it they don’t believe they have the legal authority to stop it at VNY. See item 4 from the CEO of LAWA here https://www.iflyvny.com/sites/vny/files/documents/VNY%20CAC%20-%20Policy%20Motion%20Response%2020240819.pdf Best, Gary Leff From: breton lobner via Mifnet <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2025 3:09 PM To: mifnet@lists.mifnet.com Cc: breton lobner <bklobne...@gmail.com> Subject: [Mifnet 🛰 73879] Re: what is a "semi private" flight? Last time I checked, scheduled service was not permitted at VNY. Have the rules changed? BKL On Wed, Aug 27, 2025, 11:43 AM Jack Keady via Mifnet <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com <mailto:mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> > wrote: keady - does this mean a GA type airport (Van Nuys) ifs now hosting scheduled service? https://www.luxurytraveladvisor.com/transportation/aero-and-four-seasons-maui-launch-semi-private-flights-la-hawaii?utm_medium=email <https://www.luxurytraveladvisor.com/transportation/aero-and-four-seasons-maui-launch-semi-private-flights-la-hawaii?utm_medium=email&utm_source=nl&utm_campaign=TAC-NL-Daily&oly_enc_id=7021D0698090E6R> &utm_source=nl&utm_campaign=TAC-NL-Daily&oly_enc_id=7021D0698090E6R -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Revised: 20250507 You are receiving The Mifnet because you requested to join this list. The Mifnet is largely a labor of love, however the infrastructure isn't exactly cost-free. If you'd care to make a small contribution to the effort, please know that it would be greatly appreciated: https://wardell.us/url/mifbit All posts sent to the list should abide by these policies: 1) List members acknowledge that participation in Mifnet is a privilege--not a right. 2) Posts are always off the record, absent specific permission from the author. 3) The tone of discussions is collegial. 4) Posts are expected to be in reasonably good taste. 5) We discuss ideas and not personalities, and we don't speak ill of other Mifnet members. * The Mifnet WEB SITE is: https://www.mifnet.com/ * To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list at any time please visit: https://lists.mifnet.com/ OR: SEND THIS MESSAGE via email: mifnet-requ...@lists.mifnet.com?subject=leave <http://mifnet-requ...@lists.mifnet.com?subject=leave> * Send Mifnet mailing list POSTS/SUBMISSIONS to: mifnet@lists.mifnet.com <mailto:mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> * You may reach the person managing The Mifnet at: mifnet-ow...@lists.mifnet.com <mailto:mifnet-ow...@lists.mifnet.com> * Please consider the DIGEST version of The Mifnet, which consolidates all list traffic into 1-3 messages daily. See instructions at: https://lists.mifnet.com/ * Manage your personal Mifnet SUBSCRIPTION at: https://lists.mifnet.com/ * For a list of all available Mifnet commands, SEND THIS MESSAGE via email: mifnet-requ...@lists.mifnet.com?subject=help <http://mifnet-requ...@lists.mifnet.com?subject=help> * View The Mifnet LIST POLICIES and PRIVACY POLICY at: https://mifnet.com/index.php/policies * View instructions for Mifnet DELIVERY PROBLEMS at: https://mifnet.com/index.php/delivery-problems * View The Mifnet LIST ARCHIVE at: https://lists.mifnet.com/hyperkitty/list/mifnet@lists.mifnet.com/
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