[Mifnet 🛰 73919] Re: NNN Travel Can Be Challenging

[Alan Bender via Mifnet]

 And Point Pelee, Ontario, Canada, is actually SOUTH of some communities in  California, including Yreka, Smith River, Crescent City, and a few others. Alan  On Aug 30, 2025, at 7:04 PM, Helane Becker via Mifnet <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> wrote:  And Cape May NJ is south of Annapolis MD and about on par with Washington DC Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2025, at 7:41 PM, Viggo Butler via Mifnet <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> wrote:  A map trivia is that Reno is west of Los Angeles.  Viggo Butler Sent from my iPad On Aug 30, 2025, at 5:33 PM, Karl L. Swartz via Mifnet <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> wrote:  Texas is big but by some measures California is even bigger. This was the subject of a Featured Map a few years ago: http://www.gcmap.com/featured/20180815 How do the horrors of driving in Houston compare to those of driving in Los Angeles? I was surprised that Houston encompasses about 36% more land area than Los Angeles, though the LA metro sprawl is larger. Even San Antonio is bigger than LA, another surprise.  -- Kal On Aug 30, 2025, at 10:27 AM, Dan Reed via Mifnet <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> wrote: Not a real sign (at least I don’t think it is), but the sign’s got it about right…. assuming this sign is at/near the Texas/Louisiana border near Shreveport.   People think I’m joking when I tell them that the halfway point between my home in Fort Worth and San Diego is El Paso (which is STILL in Texas, but a very HARD 13 hour drive… btw… it’s almost as far from my house to Harlingen down at the southern tip of the state)). But I’m not. The scale of Texas is just hard for people who’ve never lived here to wrap their heads around.  And while the time from the TX/LA border to Houston is really only about 5 hours or so, if you’re driving that way you really should “forget about it” ‘cause the traffic and the scale of the extraordinarily crowded superfreeways in the Houston area are, shall we say, “discouraging” to the Nth degree.  This scale is what made it possible for a little 3-plane intra-state airline called Southwest to survive when it started up 51 years or so ago. If you’re a business person on a tight schedule and a tight budget driving between Texas cities can be a real time eater, a personal life-disrupter, and expensive if you’ve gotta get a hotel overnight just to attend a 90-minute business meeting.   (Yes, the scale of Alaska is way, way bigger still… but so few people live up there, and there simply are no cross-state highways there, so nobody ever thinks about how long the theoretical driving distances up there would be).   Dan Reed Transplanted Texan   -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Revised: 20250507 You are receiving The Mifnet because you requested to join this list. The Mifnet is largely a labor of love, however the infrastructure isn't exactly cost-free. 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