I didn't know about this issue until this morning when an LH pilot asked me about it. Since then I've been speed reading the 20 pages of entries on the APA pilot forum to catch up. Almost all of the talk has been about what AA has done and my attention drifted. I actually didn't get the email myself and I don't know why. When I checked for the APA email it wasn't in my inbox, so I assumed it was from AA. And yes, it reads like it could come from either source. Eric
> On 09/18/2025 10:43 AM EDT Tom Ronell via Mifnet <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> > wrote: > > > > Also interesting that APA communication is so easily mistaken for management > by such long-time employee/member. Hard to tell the difference? > > > --------------------------------------------- > > From: ERIC Smith via Mifnet <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> > To: mifnet@lists.mifnet.com > CC: ERIC Smith <j...@comcast.net> > Date: 2025-09-18T14:13:25Z > Subject: [Mifnet π° 74180] Re: Social Media and AA > > > Hmmm, I got that wrong. > > > > Eric > > > > > On 09/18/2025 9:57 AM EDT Tom Ronell via Mifnet <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting that they speak on behalf of APA. > > > > > > --------------------------------------------- > > > > > > From: ERIC Smith via Mifnet <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> > > > To: mifnet@lists.mifnet.com > > > CC: ERIC Smith <j...@comcast.net> > > > Date: 2025-09-18T13:48:15Z > > > Subject: [Mifnet π° 74178] Re: Social Media and AA > > > > > > > The email is from AA. > > > > > > > > Eric > > > > > > > > > On 09/18/2025 9:24 AM EDT Tom Ronell via Mifnet > > > > > <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This e-mail is from AA or APA? > > > > > > > > > > TR > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > From: ERIC Smith via Mifnet <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> > > > > > To: <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> <mifnet@lists.mifnet.com> > > > > > CC: ERIC Smith <j...@comcast.net> > > > > > Date: 2025-09-18T12:59:32Z > > > > > Subject: [Mifnet π° 74176] Social Media and AA > > > > > > > > > > > It appears that several pilots at AA have been "removed from their > > > > > > schedules" because of social media posts. As far as I know that's > > > > > > not the same as being fired...yet. Back in the 90s a couple of > > > > > > pilots thought it would be fun to comment on politics during > > > > > > routine PAs inflight. Bad idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't have any social media so I can't go looking for these > > > > > > postings, and they're probably deleted now anyway. Here's the email > > > > > > from AA: > > > > > > > > > > > > "In the wake of this weekβs events in Utah, some of our pilotsβ > > > > > > social media posts have generated controversy and attracted > > > > > > unwelcome attention from elected leaders in Washington, D.C., the > > > > > > traveling public, and management, which took immediate steps in > > > > > > certain egregious instances to remove those responsible from their > > > > > > schedules. To be clear, the Allied Pilots Association does not in > > > > > > any way condone or support these highly objectionable posts. > > > > > > > > > > > > When posting to social media, it is imperative to exercise > > > > > > discretion and to keep in mind that whatever the forum, there is no > > > > > > such thing as a private post. While there will always be a variety > > > > > > of opinions among us about the news of the day, sometimes the > > > > > > prudent course is to keep those opinions to ourselves. > > > > > > > > > > > > As commercial airline pilots, we are highly trained, highly skilled > > > > > > professionals with a tremendous level of responsibility. 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