Hi Biren,

 

I haven't heard back from you about whether you can use the data in the
log files that I sent along yesterday.  I want to make sure that Grameen
Koota and Amy do not spend any unnecessary time gathering more data for
you if the data in the zip file can be distilled into what you need.
Can you let me know your thoughts?

 

Also, did you have any success in starting to research things by
performing specific tasks (bulk entry, loan account creating) and
watching how it affects the volume of data?

 

Looking forward to an update! :-)

 

Thanks,

 

Aliya

 

________________________________

From: Aliya Walji 
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 5:37 PM
To: Amy Bensinger (Contractor); 'Biren Patnik'
Cc: 'Mifos dev'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; Van Mittal-Henkle; 'mifos dev';
'Developer'
Subject: RE: Database Growth Problem

 

Hi Biren,

 

As Amy mentioned in her email below, GK was collecting the statistics
you need for all the tables in the DB from December 13th to date.  The
log files for this data are in tab delimited format so I was thinking
that rather than having GK modify their scripts to just collect the data
from the 6 tables you need, perhaps you can pull the data from the log
files into a DB and query the DB yourself to pull out the data yourself
for just the tables in question.  This will give you a wide date range
of data to work with (more than just 5 days) for better trending
information.

 

I've attached a zip file which contains all of this data.  Can you let
me know whether it's possible to just filter out the extraneous data
yourself (in excel or by importing into a DB)?  This will save Amy and
GK some time and effort and also ensure you have data to work with
quickly to move forward.

 

Thanks,

 

Aliya

 

P.S.  I have copied the Mifos Developer list on this email since we
should start involving the community in our discussions around this
topic.  

 

________________________________

From: Amy Bensinger (Contractor) 
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 2:08 AM
To: Biren Patnik
Cc: Aliya Walji; Mifos dev; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Van Mittal-Henkle;
mifos dev
Subject: RE: Database Growth Problem

 

Hi, Biren.  I can write the query to include only those tables you need.
I am available in Skype all day, but I am at the GK head office, and
connectivity is intermittent.

 

 

 

________________________________

From: Biren Patnik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 3:22 PM
To: Amy Bensinger (Contractor)
Cc: Aliya Walji; Mifos dev; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Van Mittal-Henkle;
mifos dev
Subject: RE: Database Growth Problem

 


Hi Amy, 

Thanks for your mail. We need the figure only for those tables I had
mentioned in the excel sheet. We don't need data for all tables. It
would be good if we can connect to those systems remotely by VPN.
Otherwise we need some contact point in GK who can do this or
anybody(sys admin) who had already done this. Can we talk these issues
today in skype when you are free? Please let me know about this. 

Thanks and Kind Regards

Biren Patnaik
Lead Software Developer
IBM Technology Campus
Damestown Industrial Park,Mulhuddart
Dublin 15
Internal Tel: 511211
External Tel : (+353) - 1 - 815-1211
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

"Amy Bensinger (Contractor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

29/01/2008 07:20 

To

"Aliya Walji" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Biren
Patnik/Ireland/[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

cc

"Mifos dev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Van Mittal-Henkle"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

Subject

RE: Database Growth Problem

 

 

 




Hi, Biren.  I originally was sending you a full list of show table stats
(the same information as you have provided UI instructions for). 
  
Would it be all right if I wrote a query for the specific tables you
want and have it dumped into a delimited file?  GK's generally short
staffed, so any activities we can automate for them is helpful.   
  
Also, the full table stats for the past month *should* be available (log
files taken three times per day, as discussed in thread in December).
Do you want that data, too? 
  
Thanks! 
  

 

________________________________


From: Aliya Walji 
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 12:21 AM
To: Biren Patnik
Cc: Mifos dev; Van Mittal-Henkle; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Amy Bensinger
(Contractor)
Subject: RE: Database Growth Problem 
  
Thanks Biren. 
  
I'll figure out how to get this information from GK as soon as possible
and pass along to you again.  I'll see if I can also get this
information from one of our other deployments so we can see how things
compare for a small MFI versus a larger one like GK. 
  
One thing that you could do in the mean time would be to potentially
perform some specific tasks on the site and see how this affects the
size of the tables.  The tasks that I can think that would be performed
on a regular basis that would impact those tables are the following: 
  

*       Bulk entry for the centers that have meetings on a particular
day 
*       Creation of new loan accounts

  
I think it might make sense for you to start with the first task with
the GK DB/application and pick one branch, and try doing bulk entry for
each of the centers that have a meeting on a particular day, and then
see how that affects those tables.  Since this is one of the most
frequently performed tasks in Mifos (if not the most frequent), my guess
is that it might shed some light on things (or help narrow things down).
I know that going about things in this way might not be the most
efficient way, but I thought it could keep you moving while you wait for
the data from Grameen Koota.  Let me know your thoughts on whether that
might be a reasonable approach to move forward (and certainly, if you
have any questions about how to use the site to do bulk entry, I'd be
happy to answer). 
  
In the mean time, I'll work on getting you the stats from the DB. 
  
Thanks, 
  
Aliya 
  
  

 

________________________________


From: Biren Patnik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 4:26 AM
To: Aliya Walji
Cc: Mifos dev; Van Mittal-Henkle; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Database Growth Problem 
  

Hi Aliya, 

Thank you very much for sending the hard disk for analysing the data. We
have found that 6 tables constitute 87% of total data length (17.4gb out
of 19.9 gb of data length). We need further figure of these 6 tables for
analysing more in detail. Currently we find difficulty understanding
what causes the database growth. Unless we get information about all of
these following tables, it will be very difficult for us to analyse
properly. Tables that are affected are as below (This information is
extracted from the hard disk production data). 

Table Name                        Total data length                Total
Rows 
1)Account_trxn                         2.2gb
21598509 
2)Customer_schedule                1.6gb
16804882 
3)financial_trxn                        5.7gb
59328792 
4)loan_activity_details                2.7gb
12905461 
5)loan_schedule                3.5gb
15449897 
6)loan_trxn_detail                1.7gb
20239053 

I have attached the excel spreadsheet which needs to be filled out with
Date, Total Rows and Total Data length. The data needs to be filled out
at particular time on each day. 
The best timing is in the evening when the office is closed. 

I have also attached a word document about how to get information about
those tables. Please follow the instructions. 


Thanks and Kind Regards

Biren Patnaik
Lead Software Developer
IBM Technology Campus
Damestown Industrial Park,Mulhuddart
Dublin 15
Internal Tel: 511211
External Tel : (+353) - 1 - 815-1211
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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