Agreed. We are going to do everything we can to get upgraded. We got from 1.3 
to 1.5 ok, but then ran into problems. I am trying to find out from the 
deployment resource what happened.

If my resource is not able to get over the hump, is there another resource that 
we could tap into to help us as we go? What are your thoughts?

Stephen

From: Keith Woodlock <keithwoodl...@gmail.com<mailto:keithwoodl...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: Mifos User 
<mifos-users@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:mifos-users@lists.sourceforge.net>>
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 16:44:09 +0100
To: Mifos User 
<mifos-users@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:mifos-users@lists.sourceforge.net>>
Subject: Re: [Mifos-users] Future Dating Transactions to prepare for multiple 
disbursals

Stephen,

As Emily says, I think its ok to address the user list with problems your 
having during upgrade, developers will be looking at this and we can try and 
help you through these and I would strongly adivise to move all the way up to 
the 2.1.x releases as there were lots of functional fixes and data fixes along 
with new features.

Keith.

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 11:50 PM, Emily Tucker 
<etuc...@grameenfoundation.org<mailto:etuc...@grameenfoundation.org>> wrote:
Hi Stephen,

Great to see you on the mailing list again!

Questions around upgrades should typically be sent to the user forum.  The dev 
forum is really for conversations about code, etc....

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Stephen Kaufman 
<skauf...@schawk.com<mailto:skauf...@schawk.com>> wrote:
Very helpful Keith,

Great answers. We are working on an upgrade. We got from 1.3 to 1.5 but then 
ran into some problems. Should we address the "dev" forum on that issue or 
"user".

Great memory by the way.

Stephen


From: Keith Woodlock <keithwoodl...@gmail.com<mailto:keithwoodl...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: Mifos User 
<mifos-users@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:mifos-users@lists.sourceforge.net>>
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 14:11:15 +0100
To: Mifos User 
<mifos-users@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:mifos-users@lists.sourceforge.net>>
Subject: Re: [Mifos-users] Future Dating Transactions to prepare for multiple 
disbursals

Stephen,

Its hard to remember all the way back to 1.3, I think we cleared up the error 
message around this in the latest mifos 2.2.

But as you say, its most likely to do with the way mifos is tied to meeting 
schedules. So your group meets every other tuesday (just to be clear that means 
tuesday every 2 weeks?), this meeting schedule is tied to the center meeting 
schedule so if center meeting schedule was

Tues 19th July 2011
Tues 2nd Aug 2011
Tues 16th Aug 2011

and the group was then created/activated on say 30th of July, its meeting 
schedule should match center schedule and start from:

Tues 2nd Aug 2011
Tues 16th Aug 2011
etc

mifos expects the disbursement to happen on the next meeting date after it has 
being approved (i think) which should fall on one of these tuesday every 2 
weeks dates, so with loan being approved on Tues 16th Aug 2011, expected 
disbursement is Tues 30th Aug 2011 etc.

However, there were issues with support of loan schedule of the form every x 
weeks, where x was greater than one, These issues may of existed all the way 
back to 1.3 but they were fixed in 2.1.3 i believe.

It might be hard for you to test this yourself but would need to:

on test instance:
You might create a center/group/loan product where repayments are made every 1 
week on tuesday and approve/disburse loan to see if it works correctly. (it 
should)

then you can create a brand new center/group/loan product where repayments are 
made every 2 weeks on tuesday and approve/disburse loan to see if it works (it 
should)

where the problem came up before is if the group is created on the 'in 
betweeen' week of the centers meeting schedule, so based on example above, if 
the group was created and activated (not on 30th of july) but on 4th of Aug, it 
would pick up the wrong meeting schedule and not match centers but be off by 1 
week all the time.

regards,
Keith.

On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Stephen Kaufman 
<skauf...@schawk.com<mailto:skauf...@schawk.com>> wrote:
Thanks Keith,

We are working on an upgrade from 1.3, so thanks for that heads up.

We were entering a disbursal date in the future and were getting an "invalid 
date" error.

The problem was the the group (as inherited from the Center) meets every OTHER 
Tuesday, and we were asking for the wrong Tuesday.

How does Mifos determine which Tuesday you are starting with when you set up 
group Schedule?

If I can't hemp them, it makes disbursals for all their group a bit of trial 
and error.

Thanks for your help!

Stephen Kaufman
International Aid Services – America




From: Keith Woodlock <keithwoodl...@gmail.com<mailto:keithwoodl...@gmail.com>>

Reply-To: Mifos User 
<mifos-users@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:mifos-users@lists.sourceforge.net>>
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:43:20 +0100

To: Mifos User 
<mifos-users@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:mifos-users@lists.sourceforge.net>>
Subject: Re: [Mifos-users] Future Dating Transactions to prepare for multiple 
disbursals

Stephen,

As far as i understand this is something that is the norm on mifos.

Also noticed you are on 1.3.x version, there have been lots of improvements 
added since then, it might be worth stepping through the upgrades to latest 
stable version of mifos or are you locked on 1.3 for a reason?

regards,
Keith.

On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Stephen Kaufman 
<skauf...@schawk.com<mailto:skauf...@schawk.com>> wrote:
I have an MFI that wants to enter loan disbursal BEFORE the actual disbursal. 
So for example, they might want to enter 10 loans today (Aug 9th, that they 
will actually disburse on Sept 1st. Can this be done?

Operating System / Arch / Version       Linux / i386 / 2.6.21.7-2.fc8xen
Java Vendor / Version   Sun Microsystems Inc. / 1.6.0_20
Database Vendor / Version       MySQL / 5.0.51a-3ubuntu5.7
Database Driver / Version       MySQL-AB JDBC Driver / 
mysql-connector-java-5.1.6 ( Revision: ${svn.Revision} )
Application Server      Apache Tomcat/6.0.20
Mifos Database Version  212
Subversion Revision Number      branches/v1.3.x/application@15399




From: AMIT JAIN <amitjain....@gmail.com<mailto:amitjain....@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: Mifos User 
<mifos-users@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:mifos-users@lists.sourceforge.net>>
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 13:39:58 +0530
To: Mifos User 
<mifos-users@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:mifos-users@lists.sourceforge.net>>
Subject: [Mifos-users] Work Flow

Dear All,
We are using MIfos since 2009 but still we have confusion regarding the data 
entry Or searching the exact work flow.
I require help how to match mifos with my daily field activity.
Daily Field activity.

Collection of KYC--->Screening (adding and substraction of KYC to full fill the 
center limit ie 15, 20, 25 in multiple of 5)------->Three days training (CGT)---
------> after that GRT (fails or Pass) if Pass (till here we are not putting 
any data into Mifos.
 Problem is there we have to put data in mifos at the time of disbursement 
because of CENTER MEETING day once it is given we have to disburse the loan on 
same day.
Some times we have to disburse 300 member in a day and also made the 
disbursements after giving the physical disbursement.because sometimes it is 
possible that might be disbursement doesn't takes place.

Our desire how to work with Mifos.

After the screening of KYC we are assure that 99% chances of disbursement takes 
place in particular center.
One Important thing that we are operating our operations like member active and 
loans generation and disbursements centrally. Means these particular actions 
has been done other than branch ie HUB.

In Mifos
We require to form a center with out center meeting day and forms a group and 
clients into inactive stage.
As soon as the GRT takes place means Members are passed at that time we have to 
change their stage as active (Still we don't require a center meeting day)
Now the loan approval stage HERE IT REQUIRES A CENTER MEETING DAY which does 
not means to give a center meeting day here instead of that mifos will ask to 
us on which date and day you want to disburse the loan OR on which day and date 
you want to collect the EMIs IT IS LOGICAL because we meet with members only 
for the collection on a particular day.

This process solve all the problems.

If you have any idea OR you have any other Modes operand ii please tell.

Your suggestion are always welcome.

Regards

--
AMIT JAIN | E.D | Digamber Finance (Chota Loan Bade Sapne) | 
+919414041821<tel:%2B919414041821> |
www.digamberfinance.com<http://www.digamberfinance.com/>
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