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---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Sam Tetherow <[email protected]>
Reply-To: Mikrotik discussions <[email protected]>
Date:  Sun, 25 Apr 2010 20:17:06 -0500

>The REAL Stuart Pierce (in action).
>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/22170...@n02/page3/
>
>Stuart Pierce wrote:
>> ROFLMAO, those were the days, giddy up !
>>
>> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>> From: "Damian Wallace" <[email protected]>
>> Reply-To: Mikrotik discussions <[email protected]>
>> Date:  Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:07:19 -0700
>>
>>   
>>> SAM!!!!
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/22170...@n02/2139235684/in/photostream/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected]
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Damian
>>> Wallace
>>> Sent: April-23-10 5:02 PM
>>> To: Mikrotik discussions
>>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Was 5 Mhz, now WPA TKIP
>>>
>>> Pics or it never happened :-)
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected]
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stuart Pierce
>>> Sent: April-23-10 5:54 PM
>>> To: Mikrotik discussions
>>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Was 5 Mhz, now WPA TKIP
>>>
>>> What are you trying to say conehead ? ;)
>>>
>>> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>> From: "Damian Wallace" <[email protected]>
>>> Reply-To: Mikrotik discussions <[email protected]>
>>> Date:  Fri, 23 Apr 2010 16:26:53 -0700
>>>
>>>     
>>>> Wiki's and forums are for companies too cheap to have real tech support
>>>> :-(
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stuart
>>>>       
>>> Pierce
>>>     
>>>> Sent: April-23-10 6:03 AM
>>>> To: Mikrotik discussions
>>>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Was 5 Mhz, now WPA TKIP
>>>>
>>>> No doubt, I miss the Tranzeo list on Part-15.org as well. No offense
>>>> meant to Tranzeo, but their wiki or whatever they have is very sad.
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>>> From: Chris Gotstein <[email protected]>
>>>> Reply-To: Mikrotik discussions <[email protected]>
>>>> Date:  Wed, 21 Apr 2010 14:27:12 -0500
>>>>
>>>>       
>>>>> Is the list active?  I'm pretty sure i'm subscribed to it.  I miss the
>>>>> tranzeo list from Part-15.
>>>>>
>>>>> ---- ---- ---- ----
>>>>> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
>>>>> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | [email protected]
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/21/2010 2:25 PM, D. Ryan Spott wrote:
>>>>>         
>>>>>> There are new Tranzeo lists to complain on at wispa.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ;P
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ryan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 21, 2010, at 11:42 AM, "Damian Wallace"
>>>>>>           
>>> <[email protected]>
>>>     
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>> Point taken.  We are working on it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Back to MT issues.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris
>>>>>>> Gotstein
>>>>>>> Sent: April-21-10 11:16 AM
>>>>>>> To: Mikrotik discussions
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] [Spam Bayesian - ] - Re: Mikrotik/StarOS
>>>>>>> 10mhz/5mhz channel compatibility - Bayesian Filter detected spam
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Running MT APs with XR2 cards.  No problems connecting Tranzeo
>>>>>>>             
>>>> CPQ/SL2
>>>>       
>>>>>>> or UBNT radios when using a 10mhz channel.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I do agree on how well we like our Tranzeo radios.  I just wish
>>>>>>>             
>>> they
>>>     
>>>>>>> could come down on the price of the CPQ-19f radio.  We can get a
>>>>>>> bullet2HP w/ 19db panel for a lot less.  The price on the
>>>>>>> CPQ-15f/SL2-15f is perfect and competitive with a Bullet2 w/ 16db
>>>>>>>             
>>>> panel.
>>>>       
>>>>>>> ---- ---- ---- ----
>>>>>>> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection
>>>>>>>             
>>> UP
>>>     
>>>>>>> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | [email protected]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/21/2010 12:39 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> Does Tranzeo work with Ubnt or MT or StarOS in 5 or 10 mhz
>>>>>>>>               
>>>> channels?
>>>>       
>>>>>>>> I guess 2.4 and 5ghz are different compatibility wise as it's come
>>>>>>>>               
>>>> to
>>>>       
>>>>>>> light
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> that StarOS and MT work together in 5ghz but not 2.4.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>> continue
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> that counts."
>>>>>>>> --- Winston Churchill
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Robert Andrews
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> Damian,
>>>>>>>>       Thank you for making this public.   We know that MT and
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>> Valemount
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> no love lost, and thanks to both Tranzeo and UBNT for working with
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>> both
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> of them.   Your competitive spirit made this business thrive
>>>>>>>>               
>>>> against
>>>>       
>>>>>>>> proprietary interests...   We wish that StarOS and MT would have
>>>>>>>> cooperated in this to make it so we didn't have to choose one or
>>>>>>>>               
>>>> the
>>>>       
>>>>>>>> other.  We would have both in our network for each of their
>>>>>>>>               
>>>> particular
>>>>       
>>>>>>>> advantages if they had....   Our testing showed ST did better on
>>>>>>>> customer throughput and MT did better as real routers...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tranzeo and UBNT did best as customer equipment with Tranzeo doing
>>>>>>>> better in marginal conditions and UBNT doing better in price...
>>>>>>>>               
>>>> So
>>>>       
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> have both.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>       Robert
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 04/21/2010 10:22 AM, Damian Wallace wrote:
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>> Insert Flame here ^^^^^^^
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> State Secret.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The beacons from one are in a different format than the other.
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>> It
>>>>       
>>>>>>> has to
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>> fixed in the code by one or the other, preferably both.  An SA,
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>> unless
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>> it's a high end lab grade one, won't show the difference.
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>> Since 5
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>> MHz was a lucky accident on Atheros' part, they never
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>> documented
>>>     
>>>>>>> how to
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>> use it fully so different vendors made reasonable, but
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>> different,
>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>> choices about how to modify their drivers to use it.  Result is
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>> staring
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>> Matt in the face with an evil grin.  It can be fixed, in code
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>> After all, Tranzeo and other brands can connect to both.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Damian
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of D.
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>> Ryan
>>>>       
>>>>>>> Spott
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: April-21-10 10:09 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: Mikrotik discussions
>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Mikrotik discussions
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Spam Bayesian - ] - Re: [Mikrotik] Mikrotik/StarOS
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>> 10mhz/5mhz
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>> channel compatibility - Bayesian Filter detected spam
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What are the center frequencies reported by the staros and mtik
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>> boxes
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>> when you go to 10mhz channels?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have a spectrum analyzer?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ryan
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 21, 2010, at 10:04 AM, Matt Larsen - Lists
>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>> Did some more testing on this today.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5ghz 10mhz and 5mhz channels seem to work fine, with Mikrotik
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>> as a
>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> client to a StarOS AP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.4ghz 10mhz and 5mhz channels do not work at all with
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>> Mikrotik
>>>     
>>>> as
>>>>       
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>> client to a StarOS AP.   I did verify that the 20mhz channel
>>>>>>>>>>>> settings worked fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This was using Mikrotik R52 cards on both sides, Hardware
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>> Retries
>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> set to 15 and tested under Mikrotik 2.9.48 and 3.25.   StarOS
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>> is
>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> version 1.3.23b.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ideas?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Larsen
>>>>>>>>>>>> vistabeam.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/13/2010 7:18 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What specifically is the problem?  They won't connect on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>> 5/10MHz
>>>>       
>>>>>>> on a
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>> StarOS AP?  Is the StarOS AP an Atheros based AP?  Have you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>> tried
>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>> setting Hardware Retries to 15 under advanced wireless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>> settings
>>>>       
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tik?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chuck Hogg
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shelby Broadband
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 502-722-9292
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.shelbybb.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>> Matt
>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Larsen -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lists
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 9:13 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Mikrotik discussions
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Mikrotik] Mikrotik/StarOS 10mhz/5mhz channel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>> compatibility
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I realize that I asked this question a few months ago, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would ask again to see if anyone knows whether there have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>> been
>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in new versions of Mikrotik that would fix the compatibility
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>> with
>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>> StarOS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10mhz/5mhz APs?    I have a pile of MT units that are no good
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>> to
>>>>       
>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>> unless they work with StarOS APs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Larsen
>>>>>>>>>>>>> vistabeam.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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