You know she is still smiling ! ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Sam Tetherow <[email protected]> Reply-To: Mikrotik discussions <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 20:17:06 -0500
>The REAL Stuart Pierce (in action). > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/22170...@n02/page3/ > >Stuart Pierce wrote: >> ROFLMAO, those were the days, giddy up ! >> >> ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >> From: "Damian Wallace" <[email protected]> >> Reply-To: Mikrotik discussions <[email protected]> >> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:07:19 -0700 >> >> >>> SAM!!!! >>> >>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/22170...@n02/2139235684/in/photostream/ >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Damian >>> Wallace >>> Sent: April-23-10 5:02 PM >>> To: Mikrotik discussions >>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Was 5 Mhz, now WPA TKIP >>> >>> Pics or it never happened :-) >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stuart Pierce >>> Sent: April-23-10 5:54 PM >>> To: Mikrotik discussions >>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Was 5 Mhz, now WPA TKIP >>> >>> What are you trying to say conehead ? ;) >>> >>> ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >>> From: "Damian Wallace" <[email protected]> >>> Reply-To: Mikrotik discussions <[email protected]> >>> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 16:26:53 -0700 >>> >>> >>>> Wiki's and forums are for companies too cheap to have real tech support >>>> :-( >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stuart >>>> >>> Pierce >>> >>>> Sent: April-23-10 6:03 AM >>>> To: Mikrotik discussions >>>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Was 5 Mhz, now WPA TKIP >>>> >>>> No doubt, I miss the Tranzeo list on Part-15.org as well. No offense >>>> meant to Tranzeo, but their wiki or whatever they have is very sad. >>>> >>>> ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >>>> From: Chris Gotstein <[email protected]> >>>> Reply-To: Mikrotik discussions <[email protected]> >>>> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 14:27:12 -0500 >>>> >>>> >>>>> Is the list active? I'm pretty sure i'm subscribed to it. I miss the >>>>> tranzeo list from Part-15. >>>>> >>>>> ---- ---- ---- ---- >>>>> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>>>> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> On 4/21/2010 2:25 PM, D. Ryan Spott wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> There are new Tranzeo lists to complain on at wispa. >>>>>> >>>>>> ;P >>>>>> >>>>>> ryan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 21, 2010, at 11:42 AM, "Damian Wallace" >>>>>> >>> <[email protected]> >>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Point taken. We are working on it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Back to MT issues. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris >>>>>>> Gotstein >>>>>>> Sent: April-21-10 11:16 AM >>>>>>> To: Mikrotik discussions >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] [Spam Bayesian - ] - Re: Mikrotik/StarOS >>>>>>> 10mhz/5mhz channel compatibility - Bayesian Filter detected spam >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Running MT APs with XR2 cards. No problems connecting Tranzeo >>>>>>> >>>> CPQ/SL2 >>>> >>>>>>> or UBNT radios when using a 10mhz channel. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I do agree on how well we like our Tranzeo radios. I just wish >>>>>>> >>> they >>> >>>>>>> could come down on the price of the CPQ-19f radio. We can get a >>>>>>> bullet2HP w/ 19db panel for a lot less. The price on the >>>>>>> CPQ-15f/SL2-15f is perfect and competitive with a Bullet2 w/ 16db >>>>>>> >>>> panel. >>>> >>>>>>> ---- ---- ---- ---- >>>>>>> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection >>>>>>> >>> UP >>> >>>>>>> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | [email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 4/21/2010 12:39 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Does Tranzeo work with Ubnt or MT or StarOS in 5 or 10 mhz >>>>>>>> >>>> channels? >>>> >>>>>>>> I guess 2.4 and 5ghz are different compatibility wise as it's come >>>>>>>> >>>> to >>>> >>>>>>> light >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> that StarOS and MT work together in 5ghz but not 2.4. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> continue >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> that counts." >>>>>>>> --- Winston Churchill >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Robert Andrews >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Damian, >>>>>>>> Thank you for making this public. We know that MT and >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Valemount >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> no love lost, and thanks to both Tranzeo and UBNT for working with >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> both >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> of them. Your competitive spirit made this business thrive >>>>>>>> >>>> against >>>> >>>>>>>> proprietary interests... We wish that StarOS and MT would have >>>>>>>> cooperated in this to make it so we didn't have to choose one or >>>>>>>> >>>> the >>>> >>>>>>>> other. We would have both in our network for each of their >>>>>>>> >>>> particular >>>> >>>>>>>> advantages if they had.... Our testing showed ST did better on >>>>>>>> customer throughput and MT did better as real routers... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tranzeo and UBNT did best as customer equipment with Tranzeo doing >>>>>>>> better in marginal conditions and UBNT doing better in price... >>>>>>>> >>>> So >>>> >>>>>>> we >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> have both. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>> Robert >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 04/21/2010 10:22 AM, Damian Wallace wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Insert Flame here ^^^^^^^ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> State Secret. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The beacons from one are in a different format than the other. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> It >>>> >>>>>>> has to >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> fixed in the code by one or the other, preferably both. An SA, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> unless >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> it's a high end lab grade one, won't show the difference. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Since 5 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> MHz was a lucky accident on Atheros' part, they never >>>>>>>>>>> >>> documented >>> >>>>>>> how to >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> use it fully so different vendors made reasonable, but >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> different, >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> choices about how to modify their drivers to use it. Result is >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> staring >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Matt in the face with an evil grin. It can be fixed, in code >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> though. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> After all, Tranzeo and other brands can connect to both. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Damian >>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of D. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Ryan >>>> >>>>>>> Spott >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: April-21-10 10:09 AM >>>>>>>>>>> To: Mikrotik discussions >>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Mikrotik discussions >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Spam Bayesian - ] - Re: [Mikrotik] Mikrotik/StarOS >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> 10mhz/5mhz >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> channel compatibility - Bayesian Filter detected spam >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> What are the center frequencies reported by the staros and mtik >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> boxes >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> when you go to 10mhz channels? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Do you have a spectrum analyzer? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ryan >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 21, 2010, at 10:04 AM, Matt Larsen - Lists >>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Did some more testing on this today. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 5ghz 10mhz and 5mhz channels seem to work fine, with Mikrotik >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> as a >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> client to a StarOS AP. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2.4ghz 10mhz and 5mhz channels do not work at all with >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Mikrotik >>> >>>> as >>>> >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> client to a StarOS AP. I did verify that the 20mhz channel >>>>>>>>>>>> settings worked fine. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> This was using Mikrotik R52 cards on both sides, Hardware >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Retries >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> set to 15 and tested under Mikrotik 2.9.48 and 3.25. StarOS >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> is >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> version 1.3.23b. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ideas? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Larsen >>>>>>>>>>>> vistabeam.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/13/2010 7:18 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> What specifically is the problem? They won't connect on >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> 5/10MHz >>>> >>>>>>> on a >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> StarOS AP? Is the StarOS AP an Atheros based AP? Have you >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> tried >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> setting Hardware Retries to 15 under advanced wireless >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> settings >>>> >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tik? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Chuck Hogg >>>>>>>>>>>>> Shelby Broadband >>>>>>>>>>>>> 502-722-9292 >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.shelbybb.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Matt >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Larsen - >>>>>>>>>>>>> Lists >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 9:13 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Mikrotik discussions >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Mikrotik] Mikrotik/StarOS 10mhz/5mhz channel >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> compatibility >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I realize that I asked this question a few months ago, but >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> thought >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>> I would ask again to see if anyone knows whether there have >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> been >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> changes >>>>>>>>>>>>> in new versions of Mikrotik that would fix the compatibility >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> with >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> StarOS >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 10mhz/5mhz APs? I have a pile of MT units that are no good >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> to >>>> >>>>>>> me >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> unless they work with StarOS APs. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Larsen >>>>>>>>>>>>> vistabeam.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mikrotik >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> RouterOS >>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mikrotik >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> RouterOS >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 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