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---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Damian Wallace" <[email protected]>
Reply-To: Mikrotik discussions <[email protected]>
Date:  Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:07:19 -0700

>SAM!!!!
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>http://www.flickr.com/photos/22170...@n02/2139235684/in/photostream/
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected]
>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Damian
>Wallace
>Sent: April-23-10 5:02 PM
>To: Mikrotik discussions
>Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Was 5 Mhz, now WPA TKIP
>
>Pics or it never happened :-)
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected]
>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stuart Pierce
>Sent: April-23-10 5:54 PM
>To: Mikrotik discussions
>Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Was 5 Mhz, now WPA TKIP
>
>What are you trying to say conehead ? ;)
>
>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>From: "Damian Wallace" <[email protected]>
>Reply-To: Mikrotik discussions <[email protected]>
>Date:  Fri, 23 Apr 2010 16:26:53 -0700
>
>>Wiki's and forums are for companies too cheap to have real tech support
>>:-(
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [email protected]
>>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stuart
>Pierce
>>Sent: April-23-10 6:03 AM
>>To: Mikrotik discussions
>>Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Was 5 Mhz, now WPA TKIP
>>
>>No doubt, I miss the Tranzeo list on Part-15.org as well. No offense
>>meant to Tranzeo, but their wiki or whatever they have is very sad.
>>
>>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>From: Chris Gotstein <[email protected]>
>>Reply-To: Mikrotik discussions <[email protected]>
>>Date:  Wed, 21 Apr 2010 14:27:12 -0500
>>
>>>Is the list active?  I'm pretty sure i'm subscribed to it.  I miss the
>>>tranzeo list from Part-15.
>>>
>>>---- ---- ---- ----
>>>Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
>>>http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | [email protected]
>>>
>>>On 4/21/2010 2:25 PM, D. Ryan Spott wrote:
>>>> There are new Tranzeo lists to complain on at wispa.
>>>> 
>>>> ;P
>>>> 
>>>> ryan
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 21, 2010, at 11:42 AM, "Damian Wallace"
><[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Point taken.  We are working on it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Back to MT issues.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris
>>>>> Gotstein
>>>>> Sent: April-21-10 11:16 AM
>>>>> To: Mikrotik discussions
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] [Spam Bayesian - ] - Re: Mikrotik/StarOS
>>>>> 10mhz/5mhz channel compatibility - Bayesian Filter detected spam
>>>>>
>>>>> Running MT APs with XR2 cards.  No problems connecting Tranzeo
>>CPQ/SL2
>>>>> or UBNT radios when using a 10mhz channel.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do agree on how well we like our Tranzeo radios.  I just wish
>they
>>>>> could come down on the price of the CPQ-19f radio.  We can get a
>>>>> bullet2HP w/ 19db panel for a lot less.  The price on the
>>>>> CPQ-15f/SL2-15f is perfect and competitive with a Bullet2 w/ 16db
>>panel.
>>>>>
>>>>> ---- ---- ---- ----
>>>>> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection
>UP
>>>>> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | [email protected]
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/21/2010 12:39 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>>> Does Tranzeo work with Ubnt or MT or StarOS in 5 or 10 mhz
>>channels?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess 2.4 and 5ghz are different compatibility wise as it's come
>>to
>>>>> light
>>>>>> that StarOS and MT work together in 5ghz but not 2.4.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>>>>> continue
>>>>>> that counts."
>>>>>> --- Winston Churchill
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Robert Andrews
>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Damian,
>>>>>>       Thank you for making this public.   We know that MT and
>>>>> Valemount
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> no love lost, and thanks to both Tranzeo and UBNT for working with
>>>>> both
>>>>>> of them.   Your competitive spirit made this business thrive
>>against
>>>>>> proprietary interests...   We wish that StarOS and MT would have
>>>>>> cooperated in this to make it so we didn't have to choose one or
>>the
>>>>>> other.  We would have both in our network for each of their
>>particular
>>>>>> advantages if they had....   Our testing showed ST did better on
>>>>>> customer throughput and MT did better as real routers...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tranzeo and UBNT did best as customer equipment with Tranzeo doing
>>>>>> better in marginal conditions and UBNT doing better in price...
>>So
>>>>> we
>>>>>> have both.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>       Robert
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 04/21/2010 10:22 AM, Damian Wallace wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Insert Flame here ^^^^^^^
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> State Secret.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The beacons from one are in a different format than the other.
>>It
>>>>> has to
>>>>>>>>> fixed in the code by one or the other, preferably both.  An SA,
>>>>> unless
>>>>>>>>> it's a high end lab grade one, won't show the difference.
>>>>> Since 5
>>>>>>>>> MHz was a lucky accident on Atheros' part, they never
>documented
>>>>> how to
>>>>>>>>> use it fully so different vendors made reasonable, but
>>different,
>>>>>>>>> choices about how to modify their drivers to use it.  Result is
>>>>> staring
>>>>>>>>> Matt in the face with an evil grin.  It can be fixed, in code
>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>>> After all, Tranzeo and other brands can connect to both.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Damian
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of D.
>>Ryan
>>>>> Spott
>>>>>>>>> Sent: April-21-10 10:09 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: Mikrotik discussions
>>>>>>>>> Cc: Mikrotik discussions
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Spam Bayesian - ] - Re: [Mikrotik] Mikrotik/StarOS
>>>>> 10mhz/5mhz
>>>>>>>>> channel compatibility - Bayesian Filter detected spam
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What are the center frequencies reported by the staros and mtik
>>>>> boxes
>>>>>>>>> when you go to 10mhz channels?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do you have a spectrum analyzer?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ryan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 21, 2010, at 10:04 AM, Matt Larsen - Lists
>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Did some more testing on this today.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 5ghz 10mhz and 5mhz channels seem to work fine, with Mikrotik
>>as a
>>>>>>>>>> client to a StarOS AP.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2.4ghz 10mhz and 5mhz channels do not work at all with
>Mikrotik
>>as
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> client to a StarOS AP.   I did verify that the 20mhz channel
>>>>>>>>>> settings worked fine.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This was using Mikrotik R52 cards on both sides, Hardware
>>Retries
>>>>>>>>>> set to 15 and tested under Mikrotik 2.9.48 and 3.25.   StarOS
>>is
>>>>>>>>>> version 1.3.23b.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ideas?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Matt Larsen
>>>>>>>>>> vistabeam.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/13/2010 7:18 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> What specifically is the problem?  They won't connect on
>>5/10MHz
>>>>> on a
>>>>>>>>>>> StarOS AP?  Is the StarOS AP an Atheros based AP?  Have you
>>tried
>>>>>>>>>>> setting Hardware Retries to 15 under advanced wireless
>>settings
>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> Tik?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Chuck Hogg
>>>>>>>>>>> Shelby Broadband
>>>>>>>>>>> 502-722-9292
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.shelbybb.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
>>Matt
>>>>>>>>>>> Larsen -
>>>>>>>>>>> Lists
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 9:13 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: Mikrotik discussions
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Mikrotik] Mikrotik/StarOS 10mhz/5mhz channel
>>>>> compatibility
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I realize that I asked this question a few months ago, but
>>>>> thought
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> I would ask again to see if anyone knows whether there have
>>been
>>>>>>>>>>> changes
>>>>>>>>>>> in new versions of Mikrotik that would fix the compatibility
>>with
>>>>>>>>>>> StarOS
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 10mhz/5mhz APs?    I have a pile of MT units that are no good
>>to
>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>> unless they work with StarOS APs.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Larsen
>>>>>>>>>>> vistabeam.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
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