I've tried restoring on 532, 493, 411, 433 with enough failures that
it is faster to just do the import while reading the export line by
line.  Other boards I've just replaced and done a template from the
wiki or just did what needed to be done to make it work.

I remember one 532 replaced ether1-5 with something like ether10-14 or
something, so it was impossible to figure out what link was what and I
just reset the sucker and started from scratch.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Scott Reed <[email protected]> wrote:
> What is the problem you have with backup/restore?  As long as the restore is
> to identical hardware, I have never had a failure from 2.8 upward.
> The only problem I have with export/import is that they carry the MAC
> addresses along.  What else is a problem?
>
>
>
> On 5/1/2012 4:23 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>
>> If I can't do a proprietary backup/restore since 2.8 up to 5.something
>> I find it a wasted feature.  Import/export doesn't work, but I can
>> certainly understand that.  I don't see the diff/compact ever working.
>>  Dude seems to have been abandoned with a broken final release.
>> Everything they've released in the last 12 months seems to be total
>> junk to me, based on my experience and what I've read.
>>
>> The rb400 worked so well.  Coming from the 1xx and 5xx I fell in love
>> with the 4xx.
>>
>> I'm just not giving much faith in Mikrotik's future.  They're doing
>> betas of v6 and calling v5.15 stable.  I'd never heard of a router
>> rebooting under load until Travis mentioned it.  I've never had so
>> many problems with a router (751) that keeps rebooting, bricking, etc.
>>  I've had less problems with Dlink, though I'm not saying they're
>> comparable products.
>>
>> Hopefully it's just bad luck, time will tell.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Justin Miller<[email protected]>
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Josh,
>>>
>>> The compact export is only the bits you'd pick out which makes it nice.
>>> It's a new feature and needs to get fully baked.  I did start off admitting
>>> that it needs to get nice and stable didn't I?
>>>
>>> Honestly, with all the 751 issues and now this 750 getting bricked you've
>>> got bad mikrotik luck.
>>>
>>> Justin
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012, at 09:33 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I did a restore on Friday and it bricked my 750.
>>>>
>>>> You can never import the entire file.
>>>>
>>>> The best way by far is to pick the bits out of the export and
>>>> copy/paste.
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>> On Apr 30, 2012 9:21 PM, "Scott Reed"<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Backup and restore work well, at least I have never had an issue.
>>>>>  There
>>>>> are some things to be aware of, but they work as designed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Export and import also work well.  Again, you have to know what they
>>>>> do,
>>>>> but they work consistently for us.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am looking forward to the compact option as it will make configuring
>>>>> replacement boards much easier.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/30/2012 8:03 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I wouldn't depend on that.  I know I won't.  You can't reliably do
>>>>>> their
>>>>>> own backup and restore...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>> On Apr 30, 2012 8:01 PM, "Justin Miller"<[email protected]**>
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I think once "compact" export in 5.x gets nice and stable a lot of
>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> rancid issues can be lessened by updating the rancid script to use
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I use rancid but it's most difficult to teach people how to maintain
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> router files.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Justin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2012, at 4:09 PM, Simon Westlake wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I was previously backing up all our Mikrotik routers in RANCID but
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> was difficult for some techs to work with - the files wouldn't always
>>>>>>> paste
>>>>>>> back in correctly and randomly had capitalization errors, etc, that
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> cause issues. So I decided to build an FTP system to back up the
>>>>>>> binary
>>>>>>> configuration files instead.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have something in the scheduler that backs up the current config
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 'today.backup'. I then have a script on a remote server that FTPs in,
>>>>>>> pulls
>>>>>>> the file and exits. It works fine.. other than the fact that ~50% of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Mikrotiks do not work. What specifically does not work is any kind of
>>>>>>> data
>>>>>>> transfer - I *can* connect and authenticate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 220 BRLLWIKSSW-RTR1 FTP server (MikroTik 4.12) ready
>>>>>>>> Name (x.x.x.x:simon): admin
>>>>>>>> 331 Password required for admin
>>>>>>>> Password:
>>>>>>>> 230 User admin logged in
>>>>>>>> Remote system type is UNIX.
>>>>>>>> ftp>    ls
>>>>>>>> 200 PORT command successful
>>>>>>>> 425 Can't build data connection
>>>>>>>> ftp>    ls
>>>>>>>> 200 PORT command successful
>>>>>>>> 425 Can't build data connection
>>>>>>>> ftp>    Terminated
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am not firewalling the port at all, tried disabling every firewall
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> rule just in case to no avail. Neither box is behind a NAT of any
>>>>>>> kind
>>>>>>> (the
>>>>>>> backup system or the Mikrotik.) There seems to be no reason why the
>>>>>>> ones
>>>>>>> that work DO work.. and the ones that don't work DON'T.. they both
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> identical configs from a firewall/FTP perspective. Google didn't lead
>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>> anywhere helpful. Any ideas?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>> Powercode.com
>>>>>>>> (920) 351-1010
>>>>>>>>
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