On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 01:50:46PM +0000, Justin Marshall wrote:
> I will answer this as soon as I catch it again... It's so
> intermittent, hard to catch it unless I stare at it...(most of the
> times I don't have to wait too long)
>
> > What does "/ip route print where dst-address in x.x.213.0/24" look
> > like on MikroTik A and B?
> 
> Tower A:
> [admin@Tower-VB_SBA] /ip route> print where dst-address in x.x.213.0/26
> Flags: X - disabled, A - active, D - dynamic, C - connect, S - static, r - 
> rip, b - bgp, o - ospf, m - mme, 
> B - blackhole, U - unreachable, P - prohibit 
>  #      DST-ADDRESS        PREF-SRC        GATEWAY            DISTANCE
> 28 ADo  x.x.213.0/26                   198.172.214.66          110

I wanted to see "in x.x.213.0/24" so that we could see if there was
any covering route which would send traffic a different direction when
the /26 went away.  It may have a covering route in the /20 or /16 or
whatever you were allocated.

I probably should have asked for :

"/routing ospf lsa print detail where id in x.x.213.0/24" 

That can be a lot of data.  I am not sure I know how to interpret that
data fully.  

I'm just trying to find a way to look for multiple possible paths.  

It's entirely possible that this is the symptom of a bug.  

Make a supout while it's happening the next time and send it to
[email protected].  Maybe they'll see something they can fix.  But
they will probably just say to upgrade everything to 6.11 beta.
 
> Tower B:
> [admin@Tower-FP_Selvitz] /ip route> print where dst-address x.x.213.0/26
> Flags: X - disabled, A - active, D - dynamic, C - connect, S - static, r - 
> rip, b - bgp, o - ospf, m - mme, 
> B - blackhole, U - unreachable, P - prohibit 
>  #      DST-ADDRESS        PREF-SRC        GATEWAY            DISTANCE 

Whoa, this is the MikroTik which is supposed to have x.x.213.1 on a
local interface?  Did you just paste one too few lines?  We should have
seen a connected route on that box.

If that's not just a copy and paste-o, are we sure the IP is defined on
the bridge interface rather than an underlying physical interface?  

I think it can work that way sometimes, when the moon is waning and
pluto is at parahelion, or some such thing.  I think I've seen that work
on my network while I was shuffling things.  That's probably a bug in
itself.  But it has been nice to not lose access to the box on those
occasions when I forgot I was connected to the IP on the interface I was
putting into the bridge from 2 hours away.

> > Is x.x.213.1 the OSPF router ID of your MikroTik at Tower B?  Have
> > you made sure your all of your OSPF router IDs are all manually
> > specified and unique within your network?
>
> No, the router ID is x.x.214.66.  And Yes, all the OSPF router IDs are
> all manually specified and unique.
>
> > Does the problem resolve itself after a bit? how long? or do you
> > have to take some action to clear it?
>
> Yes, the problem resolves itself after about 8 to 10 seconds, haven't
> seen it go much longer than that...
>
> Thanks again for any input you can and have provided :)
> 
> Justin
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott Lambert
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 5:15 PM
> To: Mikrotik discussions
> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] OSPF Issue
> 
> On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 08:05:16PM +0000, Justin Marshall wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > We are having an OSPF issue. At least i'm assuming it's an OSPF
> > issue because there are no static routes involved.
> >
> > We have our core router (imagestream) connected via Fiber to a
> > Mikrotik at Tower A, Which in turn is connected via 2 RB411AH's with
> > Atheros AR922X's to a Mikrotik at Tower B.  Every 500-1000 pings we
> > are loosing pings to 1 of the IP addresses on a bridge interface on
> > the Mikrotik at Tower B.  When this happens I see an IP address that
> > is bound to one of the interfaces on our imagestream, show up on an
> > MTR like so...
> >
>
> How is the wireless link from Tower A to Tower B configured?  Are the
> RB411s bridged or do they participate in OSPF?  How are the wireless
> AP and station interfaces configured?
>
> What is the OSPF interface configuration across the wireless link?
>
> Is the ImageStream up to date?
>
> Are you losing OSPF neighbor associations on the MikroTiks?  Should
> show in the MikroTik log or you can just see how long the OSPF
> neighbor association has been installed.
>
> > Host                                                         Loss%   Snt   
> > Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
> > 1. 10.192.172.1                                               0.0%  3642    
> > 0.7   0.4   0.4  27.1   1.0
> > 2. x.x.99.1                                                   0.3%  3642    
> > 0.8   0.6   0.5  36.5   1.2
> > 3. x.x.214.74                                                 0.0%  3642    
> > 9.7   0.7   0.6  33.4   1.3
> >     x.x.36.209
> > 4. x.x.214.66                                                 0.0%  3642    
> > 8.0  10.3   0.7  75.1   9.1
> >     x.x.99.1
> > 5. x.x.213.1                                                  0.2%  3642   
> > 32.7  26.1   0.8 288.3  21.3
> >     x.x.36.209
> > 
> > 
> > This is how it should look:
> > Host                                                         Loss%   Snt   
> > Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
> > 1. x.x.172.1                                                  0.0%     4    
> > 0.8   0.9   0.5   1.4   0.4
> > 2. x.x.99.1                                                   0.0%     4    
> > 0.7   0.8   0.6   1.0   0.2
> > 3. x.x.214.74                                                 0.0%     4    
> > 1.2   1.1   0.7   1.7   0.4
> > 4. x.x.214.66                                                 0.0%     3   
> > 29.8  15.5   5.7  29.8  12.7
> > 5. x.x.213.1                                                  0.0%     3   
> > 15.3  14.4  13.8  15.3   0.8
> > 
> >
> > Both Mikrotik's are on 6.7, running OSPF.  What we can't figure out
> > is why this x.x.36.209 keeps showing up in the route. While this is
> > happening, pings come back as: TTL exceeded.  Also we aren't loosing
> > any pings to any other IP's on the Mikrotik in question at Tower B,
> > nor are we loosing pings to any other IP addresses bound to that
> > bridge interface.
> >
> > The IP that we are loosing pings to is a public IP vs the others
> > being private and not being in the /routing ospf networks.  This may
> > or may not be relevant.  There is also no NAT involved whatsoever.
>
> I may be interpreting your message incorrectly.  Could you clarify
> if x.x.36.209 is an IP on an interface on the ImageStream?  Or is it
> on a router at Tower C which may also be connected to Tower A via a
> wireless link?  I suspect it is on the ImageStream.
>
> So, only the one subnet is falling out?  At the time that you get
> looping traceroutes for 213.1, other subnets run clean?
>
> Are you only looping for the one IP in that subnet or for all hosts in
> the subnet?
>
> What does "show ip ospf route" look like from the ImageStream for
> anything in that /24?  During the problem and while normal.
>
> What does "/ip route print where dst-address in x.x.213.0/24" look
> like on MikroTik A and B?
>
> Is x.x.213.1 the OSPF router ID of your MikroTik at Tower B?  Have you
> made sure your all of your OSPF router IDs are all manually specified
> and unique within your network?
>
> Does the problem resolve itself after a bit? how long? or do you have
> to take some action to clear it?
>
> RouterOS 6.x has been better for us than 5.x for wierd OSPF issues.
> But it still seems a bit delicate.  Especially if you have a
> misconfiguration somewhere or the wrong OSPF network type on a
> wireless bridge.
>

-- 
Scott Lambert                    KC5MLE                       Unix SysAdmin
[email protected]

How to be a "computer expert," http://www.xkcd.com/627/

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