On Jun 24, 2006, at 8:00 AM, Paul Murphy wrote:

I'm starting to catch on a little here I guess.  In this  case I
already know that ISP mail hub accepts the message.  Just the verbose
output of mailx -v confirms that much.

The `follow it up with them' is probably a non starter.  The ISP is
sbcglobal and calling as a user and expecting to get detailed
information from their mail logs seems like quite a long shot.

So either find another ISP, or don't use their smarthost - there's no reason
not to send direct unless you are on a dynamic address or have some
configuration issue which prevents ISPs accepting mail from you directly.

Sbcglobal is, IIRC, one of the ISPs which makes you sign something specific in order to keep your service from preventing direct outbound access on port 25. (ie. they as an ISP don't let their clients make direct connections to port 25 other than to their own mail servers; but they do have a web page you can go to to request an exception).

  050 235 ok, go ahead (#2.0.0)
  050 >>> MAIL From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> AUTH=<>
  050 250 ok
  050 >>> RCPT To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  050 >>> DATA
  050 250 ok
  050 354 go ahead

So the mail is passed on by smart host but must still contain envelope
sender which is not something that can pass any type of lookup.

Um, there's no confirmation here that they have accepted the message and
agreed to deliver it - I'd expect to see something like:

250 2.0.0 k5OEvOlr004930 Message accepted for delivery
QUIT
221 2.0.0 relay.your.isp closing connection

In this case, it has accepted the message, assigned it local ID
k5OEvOlr004930, and confirmed that you have requested the connection be
dropped.

If you don't see these, your ISP has not accepted the mail. I presume though
that you just omitted them?

Actually, his transaction DOES show the 250 line. The text after it (whether it's a message id and "message accepted for delivery" as sendmail does, or "ok" as the included text shows) is _entirely_ optional. The 250 code is all the protocol specifies as being an indication the message was accepted and will be delivered or passed on.

Though, the empty message might be affecting how the message is handled once sbcglobal has it (assuming the message body wasn't omitted here).

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