Overall, while there does exist the philosophy of science, the term
philosophy is a very large tent. And, so far, what I understand of it
has little to do with changing matter. Now, physics and other
sciences, perhaps.

On Jan 4, 1:26 pm, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jan 4, 9:08 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > In the context of "All Things" in the Universe, perhaps.  However,
> > concerning the atomic bomb, humans are Beings and the atomic bomb is a
> > Thing.  I'm sure Thoreau was not alluding to inanimate objects or
> > monstrous creations of human ingenuity but more so to the natural
> > order of ecological life and the impact of a changing environment.
>
> I know, I was just playing with words.
> The particular reason I mentioned the atom was because generally when
> change occurs it is usually a fact that matter rearranges, in a
> nuclear explosion matter changes more fundamentally.
> As for Thoreau - I understand that "things" are the eternal verities
> like love, hate, jealously etc..
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 4, 1:43 pm, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 4, 5:44 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > People changed to create the atomic bomb.
>
> > > People are things too
>
> > > > On Jan 4, 11:30 am, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > The atomic bomb is an example of things changing.
>
> > > > > On Jan 4, 4:12 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > I agree with Thoreau:  "Things don't change, we change."
>
> > > > > > On Jan 4, 8:44 am, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Jan 4, 4:36 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Without meaning to take an apparently opposing view, I would 
> > > > > > > > agree
> > > > > > > > that philosophy will need to be brought ‘up to date’ when/if 
> > > > > > > > humans
> > > > > > > > learn the true nature of everything and/or how to not die.
>
> > > > > > > Surely philosophy is the means by which humans continually 
> > > > > > > re-invent
> > > > > > > the nature of (every)things, which is ever changing and 
> > > > > > > modernising.
>
> > > > > > > > On Jan 3, 11:49 am, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > Well as for literature, Homer may have been the greatest for 
> > > > > > > > > hundreds
> > > > > > > > > of years but he was surpassed. Shakespeare is damn hard to 
> > > > > > > > > beat and I
> > > > > > > > > don't think either Doyle or Dickens have managed to do it. 
> > > > > > > > > Doyle, in
> > > > > > > > > particular is populist by comparison. The point is that 
> > > > > > > > > Shakey, as a
> > > > > > > > > contemporary did do better than Homer as a person of the 
> > > > > > > > > past, so it
> > > > > > > > > is possible that history may well find a new literary genius.
>
> > > > > > > > > As for philosophy there is a thread of progress (ugh! I hear 
> > > > > > > > > you say).
> > > > > > > > > Really, Plato's time is over and although we may still rely 
> > > > > > > > > on him for
> > > > > > > > > things he was the first to say, most of his work is no longer 
> > > > > > > > > useful
> > > > > > > > > or relevant. None of the philosophers "outclass" contemporary
> > > > > > > > > philosophers as they no longer have the power to respond to 
> > > > > > > > > up to date
> > > > > > > > > issues.
>
> > > > > > > > > On Dec 31 2008, 4:06 am, Archetypal Columnist 
> > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > The prolific writers Charles Dickens,Sir Conan 
> > > > > > > > > > Doyle,Shakespeare and
> > > > > > > > > > whatnot is exquisitely intellectual in their 
> > > > > > > > > > enterprise,which,we,the
> > > > > > > > > > contemporary humanity is revering them of their optimal 
> > > > > > > > > > repertoire.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Confucius,Lao Tzu,Homer,the philosophers,had outclass us in 
> > > > > > > > > > light of
> > > > > > > > > > ethics and morals which we hitherto assimilate them.I 
> > > > > > > > > > perceive I am
> > > > > > > > > > marginally inferior,like having penury and being destitue.
> > > > > > > > > > Vying with the past is apparently downright inimitable.- 
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