For some very strange lack of reason bathos makes me think of Thomas Hardy and the discovery my reading of the same was so poor I'd missed the notion Bathsheba had been raped. I rather liked my English teacher that year and blushed at my ignorance and because I fancied her something rotten and had gaffed in her divine presence. Later I rather enjoyed the blushes that came when the fact that she attended all the cricket and rugby matches I played in was noticed by my father. Much more of this and Gabby will complete her bathetic novel and send it off to Mills and Blush.
On 3 Feb, 12:45, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > On 3 Feb, 12:15, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Eros being the fifth horseman would have sold better, yeah. > > I remember I once worked on bathos. Can't remember what is was and > > what I thought of it. Probably because I didn't have to sell it. > > So you could rephrase it that you've 'plumbed the depths of > bathos'. Of course, the term 'bathos' is usually used in English to > refer to pathetically bad forms of art (because of the confusion with > 'pathos', not 'Porthos', mind.). > > > On 3 Feb., 06:19, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I wrote a dreadful article once in with Ethos was the fifth musketeer. > > > > On 3 Feb, 02:27, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Pat, while perhaps not exactly what you mean...often I use the term > > > > ethos. It can help differentiate quite well. > > > > >http://www.onelook.com/?w=ethos&ls=a > > > > > On Feb 2, 7:00 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > On 29 Jan, 21:38, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I don't think so, Chris. Personally, I tend to use both terms > > > > > > synonymously. Ethics may, perhaps, have a slightly more > > > > > > philosophical > > > > > > flavour. > > > > > > > Francis > > > > > > Just to add my own tuppence here, I use the term 'morals' to express > > > > > an individual's views and the term 'ethics' to describe a society's > > > > > views. Therefore a person who always acts ethically is hard to spot > > > > > in his home country but easier abroad; however, if ANY of us can live > > > > > up to our OWN moral standard, we should be considered for sainthood. > > > > > Of course, a person MAY choose to make no REAL moral judgements on > > > > > their own, thus being completely amoral, and still choose to live > > > > > ethically in the society in which they reside. > > > > > > > On 29 Jan., 21:19, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Aren't we conflating two separate issues when we use the words > > > > > > > ethics and > > > > > > > morals interchangeably? > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 3:04 PM, ornamentalmind > > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > In a different thread, fran suggested an exploration of > > > > > > > > morality in > > > > > > > > the context of economics and society. Rather than rephrase him, > > > > > > > > here > > > > > > > > are his words: > > > > > > > > > "…Most importantly, for me at least, many contributions > > > > > > > > (including > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > own appeal to charity) seem to point to some kind of primacy of > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > "ethical" in the organisation of human societies, be it within a > > > > > > > > "capitalist" or a "socialist" framework. This point came home > > > > > > > > to me > > > > > > > > after reading the thought-provoking article by Howard A. > > > > > > > > Doughty (and > > > > > > > > doesn't he live up to his name! :-)) in the link provided by > > > > > > > > Don. Of > > > > > > > > course, this insight raises many more questions: how do we > > > > > > > > achieve > > > > > > > > more consciousness of the primacy of moral values in > > > > > > > > society/markets/ > > > > > > > > public life, how do we educate for real morality in society, > > > > > > > > and, > > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > fundamtentally, what do we really mean by morality and what > > > > > > > > systems > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > morality can we propose for our complex, splintered, > > > > > > > > internetworked, > > > > > > > > interdependent, open/closed contemporary societies? > > > > > > > > What a wriggling can of worms! Back to Plato, Aristotle and all > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > others ... ;-)" – fran > > > > > > > > > I agreed and wish to explore the area…what we mean by morality, > > > > > > > > how to > > > > > > > > educate for it etc. My responding post: > > > > > > > > > "Fran, I find that you have pointed to the heart of the matter… > > > > > > > > ethics. > > > > > > > > As far as I see it, if different people have different ethics, > > > > > > > > it is > > > > > > > > probable they will espouse differing economic and/or social > > > > > > > > systems > > > > > > > > based upon their personal point of view. This seems so obvious. > > > > > > > > Many here have studied the subject, formally and informally. > > > > > > > > And, of > > > > > > > > course, each person has an opinion. For me, some sort of > > > > > > > > empathetical > > > > > > > > or at least sympathetic analysis of how differing ethoses > > > > > > > > function > > > > > > > > would be appreciated. And, yes, even in this simple request, my > > > > > > > > personal ethos/morality shines through. > > > > > > > > I have a few ideas on how to progress, however I'll wait and > > > > > > > > see if > > > > > > > > those better versed in the topic can guide us towards a more > > > > > > > > fruitful > > > > > > > > discussion. " – orn > > > > > > > > > So, since the other topic continues to appear to include > > > > > > > > contradictions to this notion, I'm starting a new one to > > > > > > > > address it > > > > > > > > for those who wish to explore rather than reject.- Hide quoted > > > > > > > > text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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