When the discussion goes into how ‘we’ have control over ‘ourselves’/ subconscious world, one quickly can enter a hall of mirrors. Of course, some can ‘direct’ dreams…consciously…as well as be conscious within the dream itself. Even though it is not popular here, I find that within ‘us’ is a telos… towards that which we are discussing…transcendence. This ongoing circulation (among other mechanisms) is quite similar to how one can find within the seed of a tree…the tree itself…within the tree, the leaves, flowers and yes, again the seed to continue the cycle again and again and …..
On Mar 2, 6:05 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes, that is my contention. However, I would not go so far as to > identify it as a "separate being" or "entity of it's own", but more so > as that part of ourselves that we have not a leash upon to manipulate > in any way shape or form. We have no control of our subconscious > world, upon where we will go and what we will experience but to some > degree we have control of our conscious realm by the decisions we make > which effect our instance. Our dreams are clear indications of such > and proof beyond any conscious study. I had posted a thread in the > past titled dreams and quantum travel or something like that, should > you care to explore that thread and the wonderful responses that > followed, hopefully to gain some insight to what I perceive. Many who > awaken from dreams have no understanding of what transpired within > that subconscious realm, not any idea of where they were, in what time > they were, or simply "what was that all about?". > Within the cosmos exists all of whatever was and possibly whatever > will be, this of course is questionable as it presents the question of > pre-dispositional destiny. As a species within this realm of life > experience there are the limitations of earthly manifestation, the > becoming of flesh and of mind. These are the tools which we are given > to navigate this realm, not to infer that some cannot transcend this > level but in the general sense of human existence, we have what we > have, some more and some less. > > On Mar 2, 12:34 am, wood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hi Slip > > Are you suggesting that our subconscious is an entity of its own? An > > intangible being that can transcends and exist in different realms and > > universes-- that can tap into vast amount of knowledge that we > > consciously cannot comprehend? > > > On Feb 22, 8:27 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Welcome Jodie, We see light from stars that are physically non > > > existent. There is no evidence that thought itself does not exist > > > within a subconscious realm beyond that of the cognitive self. As in > > > dream consciousness, perhaps within a parallel universe, death may be > > > a threshold through which the mind continues on, transitioning to > > > another level. You are here because you perceive yourself to be here > > > and so as it is, sometimes, in the dream world you perceive yourself > > > to be somewhere else. Returning to the conscious mind upon waking > > > does not negate the possibility that the dream consciousness you > > > experienced is still there, you simply are not in touch with it > > > because you woke up. Your thoughts are not exclusively a product of > > > self origination, as it is sometimes said, "the thought just entered > > > my mind". Think about it! > > > > On Feb 21, 11:27 pm, jodie <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > the long time question are we immortal will always be on everyones > > > > mind, truth of the matter is no where not. the mind is a wonderful > > > > thing and can take us so far in the universal world that we live in > > > > but once we die, so does the cerebrillium which is basically the > > > > central nervous system to the mind, bit like a cable to a computer, > > > > once that cable is disconnected so is the computer, with no blood or > > > > cells running through the cerebrillium the mind dies so does all > > > > thought and conciousness.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
