Ditto, dear ornamentalmind! :-)

I hardly dare to ask, but what brought you to the idea that negating
the positive would help to look through?

On 4 Mrz., 14:40, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> It's very surprising what you can get people to queue up for Don.  You
> need to be fair to Woodsie Chris - there are no inside jokes in here
> other than that we all envy Craig's sense of irony.  It's dog eat dog
> Woodsie and we ran outta dog some weeks back!
>
> On 4 Mar, 12:51, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I'd like the deus ex machina role.  Floating in across the stage with
> > a blinding light behind me bringing truth, justice and generally
> > saving the day with my great wisdom and power.
>
> > Or I could just play the front end of the horse.
>
> > dj
>
> > On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 2:10 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I find the idea of urging Gabby onto common ground somewhat disturbing
> > > - shades of an invasion of Poland!  I'm not sure I could cope without
> > > her ribbing.  I sense another Germanic tradition may be more apt in
> > > terms of The Immortals.  We should script an interminable opera
> > > starring ourselves.  Orn could provide chanting monks for the chorus.
> > > I would play Zarathustra as a burned-out ex-cop casting pearls before
> > > swine with a sideline in hanging bureaucrats with their own ties,
> > > constantly being reborn after being killed under avalanches of
> > > acorns.  Francis could do the Holy Man who has misplaced God for all
> > > the right reasons, Gabby the back end of the pantomime horse who is
> > > the only character who really knows what is going on, Chris and Craig
> > > as wood-cutters trying to chop trees with philosophy in a soundless
> > > forest, Gruff and Slip the remnants of a Ranger platoon in search of
> > > lost Stingers and Ian and Lee wandering enthusiasts in search of the
> > > World Tiddlywinks Championship.  Molly would be our ultimate
> > > salvation.  Anyone got Wagner's phone number - I mean this just must
> > > be put to music!  Volunteers only for the front end of the pantomime
> > > horse!
>
> > > On 3 Mar, 23:27, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> And, Wood, as far as I'm concerned, gabby is a great friend! :-)
>
> > >> On Mar 3, 3:25 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >> > "OK. But isn't that 'self aggrandizement' just the natural side
> > >> > effect
> > >> > of the foreshortening teleos? The size of the shadow you have no
> > >> > control over? The price you have to pay for your goal?" - gabby
>
> > >> > Not that I know of....
>
> > >> > On Mar 3, 8:36 am, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >> > > OK. But isn't that 'self aggrandizement' just the natural side effect
> > >> > > of the foreshortening teleos? The size of the shadow you have no
> > >> > > control over? The price you have to pay for your goal?
>
> > >> > > On 3 Mrz., 17:00, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >> > > > I will rephrase that...I do care about humanity. I do care about 
> > >> > > > how
> > >> > > > we progress. My intention was to say my goal has noting to do with
> > >> > > > self aggrandizement.
>
> > >> > > > On Mar 3, 7:57 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >> > > > > gabbers, truth is, I care not a whit about what others 'take 
> > >> > > > > notice
> > >> > > > > of'....Seriously!
>
> > >> > > > > On Mar 3, 2:41 am, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >> > > > > > LOL! And that's why you keep leaving and coming back to this 
> > >> > > > > > group.
> > >> > > > > > Because we wouldn't be able to take notice of your 
> > >> > > > > > transcendental
> > >> > > > > > activities if you didn't make them an issue for us to 
> > >> > > > > > validate. Don't
> > >> > > > > > get me wrong, I appreciate you being a regular poster here. 
> > >> > > > > > Seriously.
>
> > >> > > > > > On 3 Mrz., 04:59, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> 
> > >> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > >> > > > > > > On a cellular and genetic level, that 'will to exist' is 
> > >> > > > > > > eternal. Few
> > >> > > > > > > today even have a clear 'purpose of living'...in the 
> > >> > > > > > > mental/conceptual
> > >> > > > > > > sense. Some can quote others, but, on their own are left 
> > >> > > > > > > high and dry.
> > >> > > > > > > This is a rather sad state of affairs.
> > >> > > > > > > And, yes, such transcendence is ultimately into theosis.
>
> > >> > > > > > > On Mar 2, 5:17 pm, wood <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >> > > > > > > > Hi thanks for the welcome and the reply.
> > >> > > > > > > > I am not saying it wouldn’t be a great achievement. It 
> > >> > > > > > > > would be a
> > >> > > > > > > > major tipping point in human history. However, me 
> > >> > > > > > > > personally, just
> > >> > > > > > > > can’t phantom living forever. What is the longevity of 
> > >> > > > > > > > that will to
> > >> > > > > > > > exist?  Can we consciously maintain a purpose of living? A 
> > >> > > > > > > > human being
> > >> > > > > > > > living forever has to psychologically transcend… Almost 
> > >> > > > > > > > god like.
>
> > >> > > > > > > > On Mar 2, 12:21 pm, ornamentalmind 
> > >> > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >> > > > > > > > > Hi wood...welcome.
> > >> > > > > > > > > In fact, the very act of existing (being) has an innate 
> > >> > > > > > > > > will...an
> > >> > > > > > > > > innate purpose (telos) built within it.
> > >> > > > > > > > > Add to this the fact that many people have, do and will 
> > >> > > > > > > > > know that the
> > >> > > > > > > > > eternal ‘now’ has, does and will always be…I see no 
> > >> > > > > > > > > great issue/
> > >> > > > > > > > > problem with the notion of immortality at all.
>
> > >> > > > > > > > > On Mar 2, 6:42 am, wood <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >> > > > > > > > > > Hi all
> > >> > > > > > > > > > Time has a way of revealing possibilities, it’s 
> > >> > > > > > > > > > unfortunate the half-
> > >> > > > > > > > > > life of individual being is too short to experience 
> > >> > > > > > > > > > the full extend of
> > >> > > > > > > > > > those possibilities, hence the desire for immortality. 
> > >> > > > > > > > > > It may indeed
> > >> > > > > > > > > > be possible in the distant future, but there’s so much 
> > >> > > > > > > > > > of the human
> > >> > > > > > > > > > physiology that remain an enigma to scientist. We are 
> > >> > > > > > > > > > a stranger in
> > >> > > > > > > > > > our own body. Let’s say Immortality is achieved; can 
> > >> > > > > > > > > > we,
> > >> > > > > > > > > > physiologically, and psychologically, be able to 
> > >> > > > > > > > > > handle a life without
> > >> > > > > > > > > > an end? There are many life on earth that just exist, 
> > >> > > > > > > > > > without any
> > >> > > > > > > > > > visible purpose—can we human being be able to just 
> > >> > > > > > > > > > "exist"?  How long
> > >> > > > > > > > > > can you keep a will to live? I think to want to live 
> > >> > > > > > > > > > forever, is to
> > >> > > > > > > > > > fail to understand the grand design of life, and the 
> > >> > > > > > > > > > flow of the
> > >> > > > > > > > > > universe. Whether we truly understand the grand design 
> > >> > > > > > > > > > of life is
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