ha...I think I've mentioned John Cage's 4:33' here before too...nice
for 'silence'...but I have an hour or two of that in meditation each
day.

On Mar 21, 2:10 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm with you on the prissy part Arch.  Our American culture is full of
> dudes with earrings and eyeliner getting manicures and exfoliating
> themselves.  It's all a little nauseating.  I can't even make fun of
> them either because they'll use their gym-toned bodies and Ti Chi to
> kick my chubby butt if I piss them off.  Plus they get all the chicks.
>
> Silence is golden but here in the big city you just can't ever get it.
>  It makes it that much more special when you can get away and soak up
> some nature.  I agree the Ipod stays at home on camping trips.
>
> You'll be happy to hear I modified some ear muffs I use at work to use
> as head phones.  Not doing my hearing a favor but at least I don't
> bother anyone.  I do occasionally get pencils or note pads thrown in
> my general direction, however.  Barbaric ingrates.
>
> dj
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 5:59 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > What you 'musak farties' can never understand is that there is no
> > message in any of the dross that can beat the sound of silence or a
> > few bits of birdsong.  You will inflict your fetish on innocent
> > travellers, some of you stuck so far up the unsunlit passage of
> > narcissism that you irritate a whole coach on the train whilst
> > blasting what is left of your mind behind headphones that don't work
> > to protect us from your illness.  That musak is now so bad is
> > illustrated by the need to make it appeal through gormless butt-cheek
> > waggling and a prissy avant-garde, as ever the actual rearguard that
> > hasn't realised 'cool' is turning to the bitter winter of a forced
> > retreat.  Music has a place - watch Bill Bailey maybe - but if it was
> > any good a few chords would expose all the lies and bring us tumbling
> > into happiness and plenty.  You guys still think the Pied Piper was a
> > good guy and haven't realised the dungeon he led you into for what it
> > is and the role of musak in getting you into the mess.  Copyright
> > reserved - just in case Dem Totally Hosed steal my lyrics!
>
> > On 21 Mar, 10:25, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> On 21 Mrz., 08:50, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> .   Maybe the new sound to hit the
>
> >> > airwaves will be a revival of some Bavarian Folk music with a Rock
> >> > spin.
>
> >> Hendrix preserve us! There is actually a good German music scene, has
> >> been since the beginning of the eighties. In fact, I think innovation
> >> in rock may be more prevalent in other language-culture groups than
> >> the English-speaking one. There are all kinds of things happening in
> >> Africa, for example. Peter Gabriel's "realworld" project keeps
> >> bringing really good stuff to a wider audience. But the English-
> >> speaking world is sometimes isolated in its own dominance.
>
> >> Ever since "die neue deutsche Welle" [New German Wave] (reaching a
> >> wider world with Nena's "Nine and ninety red balloons") an indigenous
> >> German scene has been thriving, a scene where the artists sing in
> >> German - when you think about it, it does seem more sensible to write
> >> songs in your own language(!). This has expanded into all sorts of
> >> areas, like hip hop (Fanta Vier, Sido, Bushido) and bombastic heavy
> >> rock groups like Rammstein, who have a respectable international
> >> following:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w9EksAo5hY
>
> >> Other examples of good popular German rock (come on, gabby, contradict
> >> me here, please!) are
>
> >> Bap, a band from Cologne who sing in the local dialect and thus have
> >> to be translated so that other Germans can understand them. I would
> >> claim that every German between five and fifty would recognise this
> >> song, and most of them could sing along with the 
> >> chorus:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKkVV3QGJpA
>
> >> Die Toten Hosen are a punk group who've been around forever. They are
> >> also wildly popular in Argentina for some 
> >> reason:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15apenkfeF8
>
> >> Die Ärzte are punks for intellectuals, with lyrics unsurpassed in
> >> cynical cleverness. The video isn't bad 
> >> either:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DJ0Inxfmyk&feature=related
>
> >> Wir Sind Helden are one of the younger groups to have become very
> >> popular in the past few years (they were one of the acts at the Live 8
> >> Berlin concert):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr0FBBKT65s&feature=related
>
> >> (Yeah, I know I've left out Grönemeyer and Westernhagen and Die Böhze
> >> Onkels and Silbermond and Rosenstolz, etc., etc., etc. But I also left
> >> out Pur. On purpose.)
>
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