Now don't downplay the Methane generators, Don!  Maybe these milk
farms could find alternative resource in their cows instead of talking
about going out of business.  I think it's just a matter of hooking up
a rubber hose to a cow butt in order to harness the resource.   If you
could invent the cow butt adapter, money would start to flow in your
direction.

On Mar 26, 4:07 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sounds like a lame and clumsy attempt to get 'stimulus' or 'energy
> research' money from the government.  We'll see how much more the
> school gets in grant money to see if it worked.  At least it's not cow
> fart studies.
>
> dj
>
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 8:09 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Twenty years to the day that two electrochemists ignited controversy
> > by announcing signs of cold fusion at an infamous press conference in
> > Utah.  It was all something of a farce - now new evidence is being
> > taken more seriously.  Fleischmann and Pons at the University of Utah
> > announced the tantalising prospect of abundant, almost-free energy,
> > but their claims of fusion reactions in a tabletop experiment were
> > dismissed by nuclear physicists, not least because such reactions
> > normally occur inside stars. The small quantity of extra energy they
> > found was widely considered a fluke or the result of experimental
> > error.  They made some really stupid mistakes.  Even in my days at the
> > bench, a mad Iranian made some wild claims about a palladium cell - I
> > hoofed outta da place as he would have killed us all had his theory
> > worked.  The first reference to the theory I remember was published in
> > Nature in1949.  We should remember this is not just about 'free
> > energy' - tritium would be produced and that's central to H-bombs.
> > The general problem in proof is the absence of fusion products.
>
> > Pamela Mosier-Boss and colleagues at Space and Naval Warfare Systems
> > Command (SPAWAR) in San Diego, California, are claiming to have made a
> > "significant" discovery – clear evidence of the products of cold
> > fusion.  On 23 March, the team presented its work at the American
> > Chemical Society's spring conference in Salt Lake City, Utah, a few
> > months after the study was published in a peer-reviewed journal
> > (Naturwissenschaft, DOI: 10.1007/s00114-008-0449-x).
>
> > The rest below is from New Scientist this week.
>
> > Using a similar experimental setup to Fleischmann and Pons, the
> > researchers found the "tracks" left behind by high-energy neutrons,
> > which, they suggest, emerge from the fusion of a deuterium and tritium
> > atom.
>
> > The team used a low-tech particle detector: a plastic called CR-39
> > that is otherwise used for spectacle lenses. When CR-39 is bombarded
> > with subatomic charged particles, a small pit forms in the material
> > with each impact.
>
> > The researchers placed a sample of CR-39 in contact with a gold or
> > nickel cathode in an electrochemical cell filled with a mixture of
> > palladium chloride, lithium chloride and deuterium oxide (D2O), so-
> > called "heavy water". When a current was passed through the cell,
> > palladium and deuterium became deposited on the cathode.
>
> > Triple tracks
>
> > After two to three weeks, the team found a small number of "triple
> > tracks" in the plastic – three 8-micrometre-wide pits radiating from a
> > point (see diagram, top right). The team says such a pattern occurs
> > when a high-energy neutron strikes a carbon atom inside the plastic
> > and shatters it into three charged alpha particles that rip through
> > the plastic leaving tracks. No such tracks were seen if the experiment
> > was repeated using normal rather than heavy water.
>
> > Johan Frenje at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, an expert
> > at interpreting CR-39 tracks produced in conventional high-temperature
> > fusion reactions, says the team's interpretation of what produced the
> > tracks is valid.
>
> > "I must say that the data and their analysis seem to suggest that
> > energetic neutrons have been produced," he says, although he would
> > like to see the results confirmed quantitatively.
>
> > More controversial is the team's suggestion for the process that
> > produced the neutrons. High-energy neutrons are unlikely to be
> > produced by a normal chemical reaction, says Mosier-Boss. So, it's
> > possible, she says, they are created during the fusion of deuterium
> > and tritium atoms tightly packed in palladium framework at the
> > cathode. The tritium also being a product of the fusion of two
> > deuterium atoms.
>
> > Some researchers in the cold fusion field agree. "In my view [it's] a
> > cold fusion effect," says Peter Hagelstein, also at the Massachusetts
> > Institute of Technology.
>
> > Alternative theory
>
> > Others, though, are not convinced. Steven Krivit, editor of the New
> > Energy Times, has been following the cold fusion debate for many years
> > and also spoke at the ACS conference. "Their hypothesis as to a fusion
> > mechanism I think is on thin ice … you get into physics fantasies
> > rather quickly and this is an unfortunate distraction from their
> > excellent empirical work," he told New Scientist.
>
> > Krivit thinks cold fusion remains science fiction. Like many in the
> > field, he prefers to categorise the work as evidence of "low energy
> > nuclear reactions", and says it can be explained without relying on
> > nuclear fusion.
>
> > In 2006, Allan Widom at Northeastern University in Boston and Lewis
> > Larsen of Lattice Energy, LLC, suggested that the key to the process
> > was oscillating surface plasmons – waves of energy rippling through
> > electrons on the surface of the electrode.
>
> > They said that the rough surface of the palladium on the electrode
> > focuses the energy into small pits, where it can be transferred to a
> > single electron. The high-energy electron can then shoot into the
> > nucleus of a nearby deuterium atom and combine with a proton to
> > release a neutron and a neutrino (European Physical Journal C, DOI:
> > 10.1140/epjc/s2006-02479-8).
>
> > "Electrons and protons don't have trouble attracting," Widom told New
> > Scientist, and he says the explanation conforms to the Standard Model
> > of particle physics. He speculates that this theory could explain
> > instances of exploding laptop batteries, and could be harnessed as an
> > energy source – something Larsen's company hopes to commercialise.
>
> > Journal reference: Naturwissenschaft (DOI: 10.1007/s00114-008-0449-x)
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