Some people just think it udderly insane but rewards can come from simple mastication on the one end to emanation on the other, translating into money, which is moosic to my ears. No bull!
On Mar 26, 8:28 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > I actually bid for research money Don. As you suggest, it's bent. At > this very moment I am plotting to unleash EU funds to develop Slip's > rather crude notion - perhaps a machine that collects cow-fart and > recycles plastic bags at the same time? Get those shares in Rubber > Hose Inc. right now - if this plot fails we can sell the surplus to > police forces world-wide. I can hardly wait for the next dinner > party. "What are you researching now old chap?" "I'm into cow-butt > adaptation these days Charles. Have you simulated Slip's frig yet? > I've heard rumours the paired-cheese anode is clearly demonstrating > fusion smells". > > On 26 Mar, 23:03, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Now don't downplay the Methane generators, Don! Maybe these milk > > farms could find alternative resource in their cows instead of talking > > about going out of business. I think it's just a matter of hooking up > > a rubber hose to a cow butt in order to harness the resource. If you > > could invent the cow butt adapter, money would start to flow in your > > direction. > > > On Mar 26, 4:07 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Sounds like a lame and clumsy attempt to get 'stimulus' or 'energy > > > research' money from the government. We'll see how much more the > > > school gets in grant money to see if it worked. At least it's not cow > > > fart studies. > > > > dj > > > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 8:09 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Twenty years to the day that two electrochemists ignited controversy > > > > by announcing signs of cold fusion at an infamous press conference in > > > > Utah. It was all something of a farce - now new evidence is being > > > > taken more seriously. Fleischmann and Pons at the University of Utah > > > > announced the tantalising prospect of abundant, almost-free energy, > > > > but their claims of fusion reactions in a tabletop experiment were > > > > dismissed by nuclear physicists, not least because such reactions > > > > normally occur inside stars. The small quantity of extra energy they > > > > found was widely considered a fluke or the result of experimental > > > > error. They made some really stupid mistakes. Even in my days at the > > > > bench, a mad Iranian made some wild claims about a palladium cell - I > > > > hoofed outta da place as he would have killed us all had his theory > > > > worked. The first reference to the theory I remember was published in > > > > Nature in1949. We should remember this is not just about 'free > > > > energy' - tritium would be produced and that's central to H-bombs. > > > > The general problem in proof is the absence of fusion products. > > > > > Pamela Mosier-Boss and colleagues at Space and Naval Warfare Systems > > > > Command (SPAWAR) in San Diego, California, are claiming to have made a > > > > "significant" discovery – clear evidence of the products of cold > > > > fusion. On 23 March, the team presented its work at the American > > > > Chemical Society's spring conference in Salt Lake City, Utah, a few > > > > months after the study was published in a peer-reviewed journal > > > > (Naturwissenschaft, DOI: 10.1007/s00114-008-0449-x). > > > > > The rest below is from New Scientist this week. > > > > > Using a similar experimental setup to Fleischmann and Pons, the > > > > researchers found the "tracks" left behind by high-energy neutrons, > > > > which, they suggest, emerge from the fusion of a deuterium and tritium > > > > atom. > > > > > The team used a low-tech particle detector: a plastic called CR-39 > > > > that is otherwise used for spectacle lenses. When CR-39 is bombarded > > > > with subatomic charged particles, a small pit forms in the material > > > > with each impact. > > > > > The researchers placed a sample of CR-39 in contact with a gold or > > > > nickel cathode in an electrochemical cell filled with a mixture of > > > > palladium chloride, lithium chloride and deuterium oxide (D2O), so- > > > > called "heavy water". When a current was passed through the cell, > > > > palladium and deuterium became deposited on the cathode. > > > > > Triple tracks > > > > > After two to three weeks, the team found a small number of "triple > > > > tracks" in the plastic – three 8-micrometre-wide pits radiating from a > > > > point (see diagram, top right). The team says such a pattern occurs > > > > when a high-energy neutron strikes a carbon atom inside the plastic > > > > and shatters it into three charged alpha particles that rip through > > > > the plastic leaving tracks. No such tracks were seen if the experiment > > > > was repeated using normal rather than heavy water. > > > > > Johan Frenje at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, an expert > > > > at interpreting CR-39 tracks produced in conventional high-temperature > > > > fusion reactions, says the team's interpretation of what produced the > > > > tracks is valid. > > > > > "I must say that the data and their analysis seem to suggest that > > > > energetic neutrons have been produced," he says, although he would > > > > like to see the results confirmed quantitatively. > > > > > More controversial is the team's suggestion for the process that > > > > produced the neutrons. High-energy neutrons are unlikely to be > > > > produced by a normal chemical reaction, says Mosier-Boss. So, it's > > > > possible, she says, they are created during the fusion of deuterium > > > > and tritium atoms tightly packed in palladium framework at the > > > > cathode. The tritium also being a product of the fusion of two > > > > deuterium atoms. > > > > > Some researchers in the cold fusion field agree. "In my view [it's] a > > > > cold fusion effect," says Peter Hagelstein, also at the Massachusetts > > > > Institute of Technology. > > > > > Alternative theory > > > > > Others, though, are not convinced. Steven Krivit, editor of the New > > > > Energy Times, has been following the cold fusion debate for many years > > > > and also spoke at the ACS conference. "Their hypothesis as to a fusion > > > > mechanism I think is on thin ice … you get into physics fantasies > > > > rather quickly and this is an unfortunate distraction from their > > > > excellent empirical work," he told New Scientist. > > > > > Krivit thinks cold fusion remains science fiction. Like many in the > > > > field, he prefers to categorise the work as evidence of "low energy > > > > nuclear reactions", and says it can be explained without relying on > > > > nuclear fusion. > > > > > In 2006, Allan Widom at Northeastern University in Boston and Lewis > > > > Larsen of Lattice Energy, LLC, suggested that the key to the process > > > > was oscillating surface plasmons – waves of energy rippling through > > > > electrons on the surface of the electrode. > > > > > They said that the rough surface of the palladium on the electrode > > > > focuses the energy into small pits, where it can be transferred to a > > > > single electron. The high-energy electron can then shoot into the > > > > nucleus of a nearby deuterium atom and combine with a proton to > > > > release a neutron and a neutrino (European Physical Journal C, DOI: > > > > 10.1140/epjc/s2006-02479-8). > > > > > "Electrons and protons don't have trouble attracting," Widom told New > > > > Scientist, and he says the explanation conforms to the Standard Model > > > > of particle physics. He speculates that this theory could explain > > > > instances of exploding laptop batteries, and could be harnessed as an > > > > energy source – something Larsen's company hopes to commercialise. > > > > > Journal reference: Naturwissenschaft (DOI: 10.1007/s00114-008-0449-x) --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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