Well said Lycan.  Much (at least in my academic field) has been made
of Freud's small book 'Civilization and its Discontents' - this rather
favours the 'depressive position' though this doesn't mean going about
being depressed.  It's rather a statement of tolerance rather than the
assumption of paranoid-schizoid relations that tend to demonise
criticism.  I rather like notions that mental illness can be part of a
path to something more enlightened, but when depression kicks in it
feels like an illness.

On 28 Mar, 11:52, lycanthi <[email protected]> wrote:
> Anon,
> I was deeply touched and a little overwhelmed by the pain you
> articulated.  Like 'archytas' I suffer from depression and can relate
> to some of the pain you express. It did occur to me however that if we
> could 'design' babies who would never have to suffer the agonies and
> the stigmas of mental illness I believe that would be truly
> wonderful.  Unlike you I do not believe in God but if he/she did exist
> why would a creator endow us with the ability to do what we do if he/
> she found it offensive?  I sincerely hope that somewhere, sometime you
> are able to find some happiness.
>
> On Mar 28, 3:59 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I feel like this a lot of the time, though it's depression rather than
> > schizoid.  Interesting stuff anon - the themes have been around for a
> > long time.
>
> > On 27 Mar, 11:03, Anon <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Living with Schizophrenia
>
> > > It is difficult to start explaining why people suffer from this
> > > illness. As a sufferer I understand that what is perceived as reality
> > > is not what it “reality” really is.
>
> > > As the rapist's and drug dealers plan there next victims to exploit.
> > > The schizophrenic would become alarmed and so distressed at what they
> > > are doing to people that they would find it difficult to function and
> > > operate. They would, when at their worst, think that they are
> > > responsible for the sole ill-doings in society. They are not.
>
> > > Why?
>
> > > The schizophrenic feel and are emotional attached to the World they
> > > are not different than other human beings, they have a chemical
> > > imbalance in the brain. They see and hear things that aren't there.
> > > But they react to the World that is disturbed around them.
>
> > > The World is disturbed and people kill, rape, murder and abuse their
> > > bodies everyday.
>
> > > Imagine living in a mind set that never escapes from that World and
> > > every time images are displayed on television of suffering the
> > > reaction that the schizophrenic experiences. They believe that people
> > > are out to hurt them. They believe that they are being hurt.
>
> > > Some who fail to stay within the system become victims of there own
> > > illness. They stop caring for themselves, they stop functioning and
> > > operating, the schizophrenic dies. 60% of schizophrenics commit
> > > suicide. Or do they die from the care that they receive?
>
> > > Speaking to the television, speaking to ones-self, answering
> > > themselves, repetitively repeating keywords and living in fear of the
> > > community that they live in; from prejudice, ill educated and under
> > > factually supported media hype of the schizophrenic are all factors
> > > that cause unnecessary harm to the mind of the schizophrenic.
>
> > > So what can be done to improve the system of delivery for the
> > > schizophrenic's and the other 1 in 10 that suffer from mental health
> > > problems in the United Kingdom.
>
> > > As we evolve as an educated society and move away from
> > > industrialisation and into the technological age the more mental
> > > health problems we will experience. Why, because we are not robots? We
> > > are not machines? We are naturally occurring organisms; We should not
> > > try to replicate ourselves or design our own babies. Because we can?
>
> > > We are the operators of our World and the operator cannot think
> > > mathematical as fast as the machine. Machines now make machines and it
> > > is an ill-otton gain to think that the machine will not but all
> > > replace the human species in the next century or so.
>
> > > It seems far fetched but films like AI may even become “reality” all
> > > but a warped version of it.
>
> > > God made man in his own image and now man wants to make God.
>
> > > Ultimately, we will destroy ourselves in World War III and that will
> > > be the end of our existantance.
>
> > > Or like Buck Rogers we will divide into two community groups. 1) Those
> > > of the ill and famined living in rags and diseases. Like already in
> > > our own communities of capitalism.
>
> > > 2)Then the second community group those of the wealthy living in
> > > squander, without diseases. Holding the cure to illnesses of the first
> > > community group but so blind and blinkered in their luxuries that they
> > > don't realise what is happening in the first community group.
>
> > > So the Schizophrenics live in fear of their own mind and their own
> > > communities because by the time an average person reaches the age of
> > > 15 they have experienced so much death, rape, crime and victimisation
> > > on television that they are emotional detached from the World. Where
> > > the schizophrenic, when ill, continues to live in this World of Death
> > > and Destruction. They start to taste, touch and sensationalise what is
> > > wrong with the World but without being able to verbalise or express
> > > themselves. They become trapped in a evil places that tortures them
> > > and that normally leads to hospitalisation.
>
> > > ANON
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