Please explain yourself further.. I'm here to learn.

On Mar 29, 12:33 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
> I slowly move from mind-only schools to middle-way ontology and
> epistemolog...the path is better than regurgitation of memes.
>
> On Mar 28, 8:13 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > A bit inconsistent Lon - but we should be thinking more like this, if
> > only to recognise some of the difficulties.  My guess that search for
> > precision in thought is often the first mistake.
>
> > On 28 Mar, 13:07, Lonlaz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > It seems to me that things exist only in our minds, and only some of
> > > those things correspond as best they can to objects in the real
> > > world.  The idea of object also is only something that exists in our
> > > heads.
>
> > > Suppose I see a flock of Canada Geese flying South for the winter.
> > > Then thereafter I was informed that the geese that migrated over my
> > > hometown we a newly discovered species of Newfoundland Geese who ate
> > > slightly different things than Canada Geese, and had an entirely
> > > different mating call.  The Newfoundland Geese fly over my town and
> > > return from their migration as entirely different geese.
>
> > > Say a goat with a congenital defect has a single horn growing out of
> > > his forehead, and due to a strange reaction to algae in the Amazon
> > > River his fur is pink, he is worshiped by a local tribe as a holy
> > > creature. Is that a pink unicorn?  A teacup is flushed out out of
> > > Skylab during an attempt to get rid of worrying odor in the space
> > > station's galley, does God now exist?
>
> > > On Mar 27, 9:10 am, Kierkecraig <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Lonlaz,
> > > > What do you mean by "exists"?  How do you define that word?  Isn't the
> > > > question you should be asking not whether something exists, but rather
> > > > where it exists?  For example, pink unicorns exist, but as far we know
> > > > they only exist in the subjective mind.  Canadian geese exist as well,
> > > > but they exist both in the subjective mind, and in the objective
> > > > world.  In fact pink unicorns are based on our experience as well.
> > > > We've experienced the color pink, we've experienced animals with
> > > > horns, and we've experienced horses.  We combine all those
> > > > experiences, muddle things up, and we come up with something that we
> > > > never experienced all at the same time, and so we say that it exists
> > > > only in our subjective mind, but in reality even a pink unicorn exists
> > > > in the objective world, just not in the order we arranged the objects
> > > > in our subjective mind.
>
> > > > On Mar 25, 3:23 pm, Lonlaz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Inspired by the perhaps strange idea of asking if something exists or
> > > > > not.  I ask, does anything really exist at all?  Does Blue exist, for
> > > > > example?
>
> > > > > Now some of us would say that the very thought of being able to refer
> > > > > to something by a name would be common sense proof that it exists.  So
> > > > > does a general concesus mean that something exists?  What about the
> > > > > color blind?
>
> > > > > Now someone may say, of course there is a color Blue!  It can be
> > > > > measured! Blue is photons oscillilating at 450 nm.  But another might
> > > > > say, that is a paltry existence, a bunch of transient particles
> > > > > without mass waving about, only to be snuffed out of existance by a
> > > > > retina.  And like the tree that fell in the forest, if the wavy
> > > > > particles don't hit a retina, are they still Blue?
>
> > > > > Muddling the question further, there are those that dispute Blue is a
> > > > > color at all.  These 'Synthenasist' claim Blue is a taste, a sound, or
> > > > > perhaps even a feeling.- Hide quoted text -
>
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