I've never been a professional philosopher Lon, but it's pretty clear talking with them that one is supposed to learn to listen and find flaws in arguments, solutions to puzzles within logical rules, flaws in the logical rules and learn to recognise what we can proceed with practically. It's a bit daft excluding the fact that you are in argument with someone by insisting on personally constructed reality alone.
On 29 Mar, 20:51, Lonlaz <[email protected]> wrote: > Please explain yourself further.. I'm here to learn. > > On Mar 29, 12:33 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I slowly move from mind-only schools to middle-way ontology and > > epistemolog...the path is better than regurgitation of memes. > > > On Mar 28, 8:13 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > A bit inconsistent Lon - but we should be thinking more like this, if > > > only to recognise some of the difficulties. My guess that search for > > > precision in thought is often the first mistake. > > > > On 28 Mar, 13:07, Lonlaz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > It seems to me that things exist only in our minds, and only some of > > > > those things correspond as best they can to objects in the real > > > > world. The idea of object also is only something that exists in our > > > > heads. > > > > > Suppose I see a flock of Canada Geese flying South for the winter. > > > > Then thereafter I was informed that the geese that migrated over my > > > > hometown we a newly discovered species of Newfoundland Geese who ate > > > > slightly different things than Canada Geese, and had an entirely > > > > different mating call. The Newfoundland Geese fly over my town and > > > > return from their migration as entirely different geese. > > > > > Say a goat with a congenital defect has a single horn growing out of > > > > his forehead, and due to a strange reaction to algae in the Amazon > > > > River his fur is pink, he is worshiped by a local tribe as a holy > > > > creature. Is that a pink unicorn? A teacup is flushed out out of > > > > Skylab during an attempt to get rid of worrying odor in the space > > > > station's galley, does God now exist? > > > > > On Mar 27, 9:10 am, Kierkecraig <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Lonlaz, > > > > > What do you mean by "exists"? How do you define that word? Isn't the > > > > > question you should be asking not whether something exists, but rather > > > > > where it exists? For example, pink unicorns exist, but as far we know > > > > > they only exist in the subjective mind. Canadian geese exist as well, > > > > > but they exist both in the subjective mind, and in the objective > > > > > world. In fact pink unicorns are based on our experience as well. > > > > > We've experienced the color pink, we've experienced animals with > > > > > horns, and we've experienced horses. We combine all those > > > > > experiences, muddle things up, and we come up with something that we > > > > > never experienced all at the same time, and so we say that it exists > > > > > only in our subjective mind, but in reality even a pink unicorn exists > > > > > in the objective world, just not in the order we arranged the objects > > > > > in our subjective mind. > > > > > > On Mar 25, 3:23 pm, Lonlaz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Inspired by the perhaps strange idea of asking if something exists > > > > > > or > > > > > > not. I ask, does anything really exist at all? Does Blue exist, > > > > > > for > > > > > > example? > > > > > > > Now some of us would say that the very thought of being able to > > > > > > refer > > > > > > to something by a name would be common sense proof that it exists. > > > > > > So > > > > > > does a general concesus mean that something exists? What about the > > > > > > color blind? > > > > > > > Now someone may say, of course there is a color Blue! It can be > > > > > > measured! Blue is photons oscillilating at 450 nm. But another > > > > > > might > > > > > > say, that is a paltry existence, a bunch of transient particles > > > > > > without mass waving about, only to be snuffed out of existance by a > > > > > > retina. And like the tree that fell in the forest, if the wavy > > > > > > particles don't hit a retina, are they still Blue? > > > > > > > Muddling the question further, there are those that dispute Blue is > > > > > > a > > > > > > color at all. These 'Synthenasist' claim Blue is a taste, a sound, > > > > > > or > > > > > > perhaps even a feeling.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
