Does this presuppose that such a manner of beast lives?  One that is
without morals?

I can't belive that.

On 6 Apr, 12:41, Matthijs <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> First of all I want to say: good point to discuss.
>
> I think that the main reason for people to use moral is the fear to be
> punished by other people who live without moral. That is why we have
> the law to say killing is wrong, it is the line that protects you
> against violence from others. May you choose to walk without moral or
> law, for most people, the fear is to great to be a victim of the
> chaos, in chaos the risk is much higher to be attacked.
> In dutch we say:'  Wie goed doet wie goed ontmoet.'  That means that
> when you do good things you get the best of life in return.
>
> I think that God does not punish for what you have become on earth.
> I think that the most he will ask is for people to come to terms what
> they have done and accept who they were in life.
>
> Life is good,
> Matthijs
>
> On 3 apr, 11:30, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > In Dostoevsty’s novel, “Crime and Punishment”, Raskolnikov commits
> > murder with the justification, “If God doesn’t exist, then anything is
> > permissible.” Dostoevsky, who advocated a slavophile Christianity,
> > uses the novel to argue that rationalist atheism leads to nihilism and
> > chaos and that a belief in a redeeming God is the only solid basis for
> > human life.
>
> > The theistic argument for an ultimate basis for morality is, of
> > course, easy; morality is divinely deemed, proscribed, part of the
> > template of existence. It gives answers to the question, “why be
> > moral?” on different levels; because God has ordained it, because it
> > is a God-created part of human nature, because God will punish you if
> > you aren’t and reward you if you are.
>
> > Where can atheists find an answer to the question; why be moral? More
> > practically, perhaps, if we accept secular models for organising
> > society (and this is the basis of western societies), where do we find
> > arguments in favour of behaving morally? In the wake of the financial
> > collapse, many commentators have identified a lack of moral
> > sensibility on the part of those managing and playing the markets as
> > one of the underlying problems leading to the collapse. Is the basis
> > of law and regulation merely deterrent; the fear of the consequences
> > of being caught?
>
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