I liked that movie also.  We all have a drive to explain life, and do
so endlessly, from our own viewpoints.  I posted the clip as an
example of pre rational mind sets, as an off set to gruff's rational
post.  Both are object driven and see man as other, and often, when
posited in these mind sets, we see ourselves as other, and explain
ourselves as other.  I did it because he...I am because he...my car,
my home, my profession, my idea...all objectify us.  There are even, I
think, transrational mindsets that allow for this objectification.  My
faith, your faith, god is...all express at least a degree of
separation.  And separation without the one allows the object.  I
bring this up because I don't believe that I truly experienced the
flow of my internal morality until I was able to live from that
position of the one and the many (the ultimate paradox) - God as the
expression of the individual man who collectively express the god
within (whether they are aware of it or not, each perfectly ordered
unto themselves)  Until we can realize this paradox, our morality is
an agreed upon notion of the good, and we each live up to it or not,
like the laws that govern our cultures.

On Apr 14, 7:39 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> That is nice, Molly, but you do realize it is from the movie
> Apocalypto.  I own that DVD and find the movie very compelling with
> much to offer in the examination of humanity.  Have you seen the
> movie.  I found it very thought provoking.
>
> On Apr 14, 9:58 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1hnHwFiUwA&feature=player_embedded
>
> > On Apr 13, 12:44 pm, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > An interesting read that ties into this thread nicely.
>
> > > The Virtues of Godlessness: The least religious nations are also the
> > > most healthy and 
> > > successfulhttps://lists.wallawalla.edu/pipermail/caribsda/2009-January/013296.html
>
> > > While I can't vouch for the accuracy of the paper, I do like what it
> > > says.
>
> > > /e
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