Our reflexive activity of observing self is of great interest to me.
Even though I seldom ponder about it anymore, it is a very interesting
notion...to use that which is being observed to observe itself, isn't
it?
There, at some point, is a result from such activities.

On Apr 16, 5:00 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
> It is our responsibility to examine our thoughts and ideas, our "
> religion."
>
> and everything
>
> examining ourselves, putting conscious mind in the position to witness
> ourselves, is a powerful and important step in consciousness raising.
>
> On Apr 15, 11:44 pm, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > It isn't just thought, OM !
>
> > The thought pervades the emotion, the will and willingness to do, the
> > consequent ( mass ) momentum powered with ( mob ) intent ...  so
> > religion needs as much examination as any other thought or idea.
>
> > It is our responsibility to examine our thoughts and ideas, our "
> > religion."
>
> > On Apr 15, 7:38 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > "...I do agree that religion has been responsible for ....." - SD
>
> > > Again, 'religion' has no existence in and of itself. Religion is but
> > > an area of thought that humans have…and I suggest innately. That
> > > aside, humans and not any concept are or can be responsible. Now, this
> > > could be another topic…again. Can humans be responsible? :)
>
> > > On Apr 15, 4:20 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > I liked that movie also.  We all have a drive to explain life, and do
> > > > so endlessly, from our own viewpoints.  I posted the clip as an
> > > > example of pre rational mind sets, as an off set to gruff's rational
> > > > post.  Both are object driven and see man as other, and often, when
> > > > posited in these mind sets, we see ourselves as other, and explain
> > > > ourselves as other.  I did it because he...I am because he...my car,
> > > > my home, my profession, my idea...all objectify us.  There are even, I
> > > > think, transrational mindsets that allow for this objectification.  My
> > > > faith, your faith, god is...all express at least a degree of
> > > > separation.  And separation without the one allows the object.  I
> > > > bring this up because I don't believe that I truly experienced the
> > > > flow of my internal morality until I was able to live from that
> > > > position of the one and the many (the ultimate paradox) - God as the
> > > > expression of the individual man who collectively express the god
> > > > within (whether they are aware of it or not, each perfectly ordered
> > > > unto themselves)  Until we can realize this paradox, our morality is
> > > > an agreed upon notion of the good, and we each live up to it or not,
> > > > like the laws that govern our cultures.
>
> > > > On Apr 14, 7:39 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > That is nice, Molly, but you do realize it is from the movie
> > > > > Apocalypto.  I own that DVD and find the movie very compelling with
> > > > > much to offer in the examination of humanity.  Have you seen the
> > > > > movie.  I found it very thought provoking.
>
> > > > > On Apr 14, 9:58 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1hnHwFiUwA&feature=player_embedded
>
> > > > > > On Apr 13, 12:44 pm, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > An interesting read that ties into this thread nicely.
>
> > > > > > > The Virtues of Godlessness: The least religious nations are also 
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > most healthy and 
> > > > > > > successfulhttps://lists.wallawalla.edu/pipermail/caribsda/2009-January/013296.html
>
> > > > > > > While I can't vouch for the accuracy of the paper, I do like what 
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > says.
>
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