When I suggest changing others purpose I don't mean by any physical, verbal, dogmatic or other direct action which in essence is forceful. "They are we, we are them", is a concept beyond physicality which retains the element of individuality, otherwise when anyone makes purpose change, all else would automatically follow suit. Inspiring change makes more sense and represents the aspect I was implying with "change the purpose of others". This as well is the premise of many deity figures whether mono or polytheistic. The basic idea is to lead by example but the underlying problem is that following en mass suggests gruff's religiosity which further leads to religious persecution and aggressive tactic such as demonstrated by religious fervor and insistence of adherence practiced by some groups. We are in agreement with introduction of path which allows realization of self, the unfolding of same, and in addition the recognition of shadow principle to enhance the fulfillment of personal potential and development. Outward expression of a fulfilled self is key in relaying the change of purpose which may imply the quality of aura as well which IF highly pervasive will have a great impact on change, like the effluvium of a beautiful rose or perhaps your pheromones, dear Molly. lol arf arf. You are correct in perceiving change in purpose as most difficult and complex. Some simply cannot see the end of the road until the crash, but as we know, one's willingness to learn relies heavily on one's recognition of personal ignorance. When confronting adversity in others with suggestions of a more peaceful resolution, I'm often receiving a retort with a Ghandi comparative. Though still, it is when some approaches asking why my grass is greener, I know I'm on the path that is right for me and hopefully for them. We can feel it and live it but it is the opposition that must take the initial step in recognizing flawed self and questioning what might be wrong before they can effect personal change in purpose. On a global scale I doubt that effecting change is anything less than a magnanimous task in light of the ongoing quest for materialistic wealth fueled by greed and attained by corruption. I oft sit and ponder about having no government, no country or world with a resolve that supports my most inner feeling of alienation and a sense of not belonging here in a world that has become forlorn of truth. Sometimes I think my purpose is simply voyeurism of earthly activity and conduct, the why of which is unknown. If I could leave tomorrow, not through death, I'd be gone. I make the best of it and so better it is for me but I would still rather be elsewhere with some very special people who share purpose, together in Utopia, perhaps in that parallel. Will you join me?
On Apr 15, 6:46 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > To effect change we must change the > purpose of others, > > This, I think, is the most complicated and difficult path to change, > as it establishes duality and opposition and not unity. And yet, I do > see it is the path most often taken. What I see is: There are no > others that do not include me. We are them. Change your purpose, > change the world. Inspiring change may be as simple as connecting > others to the beautiful. Or introducing a path that allows the > unfoldment of self and fulfillment of potential. This inspiration is > possible when you yourself can feel it and live from it. Your > expression then flows directly from the truth that connects us all. > > On Apr 15, 1:35 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I guess that is taking the ball and running with it, Molly. I > > wouldn't go so far as to concur with Blake and Goddard, though their > > perspectives are well taken. I still stand on the other side of the > > fence with several issues presented while noting that my intent was to > > open a closed door concerning the "possibilities" now available > > through recognition of quantum parallel theorems. Theirs is more of a > > declaration and affirmation based on biblical reference, an intended > > exclusion in my post. I may have alluded to a supreme being but not > > necessarily one that assumes the role or title of a god and all the > > precepts of such. Within our immediate cosmological realm I perceive > > not a deity based world but one that is primarily based on our own > > individual and group purpose; ergo, conflicts arise from the diversity > > of individual and group purpose. To effect change we must change the > > purpose of others, which may be next to impossible but nevertheless > > necessary to bring harmony to a world that has been embroiled in > > perpetual turmoil throughout human history. Change does not always > > occur within a single generation, nor several generations, but humans > > will strive in their vicissitude of human life experience to create a > > peaceful world, individually and as a group. Hopefully, that will be > > the collective purpose; a congruity of ideas. > > > On Apr 14, 9:36 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I agree to Slip's insight. To it, I would add the insights of two of > > > my favorite Christian Mystics, who wrote about the idea of imaginal > > > consciousness: > > > > "I could tell you from now until the end of time that your own > > > Wonderful Human Imagination is God, and you could hear it but never > > > apply it. Quite often we cannot bring ourselves to apply it because it > > > is in conflict with our training, but it does not operate itself, we > > > are the operant power. > > > > We are told in the 118th Psalm, "The stone which the builders rejected > > > has become the chief cornerstone. This is the Lord's doing; it is > > > marvelous in our sight." > > > > Many years ago, sitting in the silence, my eyes closed in > > > contemplation but not really thinking of anyone partic¬ular thing, a > > > huge quartz appeared before my eyes. Then it shattered, fragmenting > > > itself into many, many pieces. As I watched, it quickly reassembled > > > itself, but this time it took on the human form seated in the lotus > > > posture. As I look¬ed, I realized I was looking at myself. Then it > > > began to glow, and when it reached the intensity of the sun, it > > > exploded and I awoke in my chair. > > > > The stone I had rejected was myself. I could not believe I, myself, > > > was the cause of the phenomena of my life. I thought "he" did it, > > > "she" did it, "they" did it . . . the world did it, but certainly I am > > > not responsible. These things happened because of others, but I looked > > > at the stone which the builders rejected. "It's the Lord's doing and > > > it is marvelous in our sight." > > > > When we see this world as a world of appearance behind which the > > > reality of imagining lies, we find the truth. All things exist in the > > > human imagination, and by that I mean the individual's imagination. In > > > your own bosom you bear your own heaven and your earth, and all that > > > you behold, though it appears without, it is within, in your > > > imagination, of which this world of mortality is the foundation stone. > > > It is the tree. Christianity is its fulfill¬ment. It is the fruit, but > > > the tree is Judaism, and all that it contains will come out, > > > eventually, in a plan, a wonderful plan that was there in the > > > beginning of time. That, we call Christianity. > > > > Blake said, "I know of no other Christianity and no other gospel than > > > the liberty both of body and mind, to exercise the divine arts of > > > imagination." Then he adds, "The apostles knew of no other gospel and > > > the worship of God is using his gift." Then he states, "God became as > > > we are, that we may be as he is." What is the gift? Blake also > > > mentions that. He said, "Man is imagination, and God is man and exists > > > in us and we in him. The eternal body of man is the imagination and > > > that is God Himself, the Divine Body, Jesus." As you are seated here, > > > it's all about you. Your own Wonderful Human Imagination is the God of > > > the universe. That is the one spoken of as the Lord Jesus. Is it > > > really true? You are called upon to test it and see. I rejected the > > > fact that I was the cause of the phenomenon of my life and thought > > > everyone outside of myself caused it. Then I saw the vision. Here is a > > > stone, a quartz, fragmented, then it came together in the shape of a > > > man seated in the lotus posture. As I looked at it I saw that it was > > > myself. Then I realized I was the cause. He is the dreamer in me. One > > > day he is going to awake from this dream, and, when he awakes, I am he > > > and he and I are One." > > > > - Neville Goddard > > > > On Apr 14, 9:07 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > When considering theories of parallel universes one must consider that > > > > life, of any form, may exist elsewhere. With this consideration one > > > > must rethink the concepts of purpose and of a supreme being, even one > > > > that may have initiated the creation of our universe. How is this? > > > > Many, in the form of postulation deny or uphold the existence of a > > > > creator and often confine inquiry or speculation to human perception > > > > within the confines of the human world, that being earth and our > > > > immediate universe. However, with the possibility of parallel > > > > universe comes the possibility of parallel life forms and life forms > > > > unknown. Hypothetically, one or more of these life forms may be well > > > > beyond our level of intelligence and have considered establishing > > > > another universe and so put forth the necessary elements to create the > > > > universe in which we now exist. Upon the successful completion of > > > > said universe the life form decides to expand upon it with the > > > > addition of organisms and so on. The question of course still remains > > > > whether or not that being who created a new universe had put forth > > > > "purpose" upon the organisms that inhabit said universe. We seem to > > > > have this innate sense to travel out beyond our gravitational confines > > > > in an effort to explore our solar system, to reach beyond what is only > > > > conceivable in the mind and through the equations formulated by > > > > physicists who really never offer any tangible element. Therefore, > > > > what is really beyond our reach physically or resultant of any quantum > > > > calculus remains speculative without malleability. We cannot prove or > > > > disprove the existence of a creator from another universe nor can we > > > > establish the purpose of such a creation but only by reason can we > > > > establish our own individual truths by which we set forth to live. > > > > Looking elsewhere for purpose is moot, as it has been for thousands of > > > > years. The real answer to purpose is that which "we" establish for > > > > ourselves, individually and as a group, each day, each hour and even > > > > each minute of our lives. Beyond general purpose there is the issue > > > > "quality of purpose". By that we can see the origins of conflict > > > > throughout humanity, the collision of purpose, the establishment of > > > > purpose by infringement upon others. If there were a divine purpose I > > > > would assume that it is to promote good and conquer bad. For me > > > > purpose is to have peace and bring joy to others so they may have > > > > peace and bring joy to someone else, creating a cycle of peace, love > > > > and joy. All that "really" matters; the enjoyment of life. If one is > > > > not enjoying life then one is not purposing to do so. What is your > > > > purpose today? > > > > > On Apr 13, 1:43 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > its likley a by product of my imaginary conscienceness but i would > > > > > like to entertain the thought that some how there is some sort of > > > > > universal mind,conscienceness or metaphisical energy force that is > > > > > trying to evolve into a better structured universe that is more > > > > > condusive to abetter quality of lifes exsitence.if there is a god as > > > > > modeled by human organised monolithc religions ,artificial god must be > > > > > drunk dead or insane to give human beings power of freewill to do what > > > > > self destructive actions humans do to their selfs,other humans,animals > > > > > and their planet home earth ! --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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