It must have been very difficult for you, orn, but you got it out. I'm speechless. Thanks! Sincerely, The wax poet, Slip
On Apr 15, 9:44 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > "... the why of which is unknown...." - SD > > As poetic as your waxing is Slip...there does seem to be some actual > knowledge about things human. Your self observation (there, I said it > again) is a wonderful aspect of that process. > > On Apr 15, 7:28 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > When I suggest changing others purpose I don't mean by any physical, > > verbal, dogmatic or other direct action which in essence is > > forceful. "They are we, we are them", is a concept beyond > > physicality which retains the element of individuality, otherwise when > > anyone makes purpose change, all else would automatically follow > > suit. Inspiring change makes more sense and represents the aspect I > > was implying with "change the purpose of others". This as well is > > the premise of many deity figures whether mono or polytheistic. The > > basic idea is to lead by example but the underlying problem is that > > following en mass suggests gruff's religiosity which further leads to > > religious persecution and aggressive tactic such as demonstrated by > > religious fervor and insistence of adherence practiced by some > > groups. > > We are in agreement with introduction of path which allows realization > > of self, the unfolding of same, and in addition the recognition of > > shadow principle to enhance the fulfillment of personal potential and > > development. Outward expression of a fulfilled self is key in > > relaying the change of purpose which may imply the quality of aura as > > well which IF highly pervasive will have a great impact on change, > > like the effluvium of a beautiful rose or perhaps your pheromones, > > dear Molly. lol arf arf. > > You are correct in perceiving change in purpose as most difficult and > > complex. Some simply cannot see the end of the road until the crash, > > but as we know, one's willingness to learn relies heavily on one's > > recognition of personal ignorance. When confronting adversity in > > others with suggestions of a more peaceful resolution, I'm often > > receiving a retort with a Ghandi comparative. Though still, it is > > when some approaches asking why my grass is greener, I know I'm on the > > path that is right for me and hopefully for them. We can feel it and > > live it but it is the opposition that must take the initial step in > > recognizing flawed self and questioning what might be wrong before > > they can effect personal change in purpose. > > On a global scale I doubt that effecting change is anything less than > > a magnanimous task in light of the ongoing quest for materialistic > > wealth fueled by greed and attained by corruption. I oft sit and > > ponder about having no government, no country or world with a resolve > > that supports my most inner feeling of alienation and a sense of not > > belonging here in a world that has become forlorn of truth. Sometimes > > I think my purpose is simply voyeurism of earthly activity and > > conduct, the why of which is unknown. If I could leave tomorrow, not > > through death, I'd be gone. I make the best of it and so better it is > > for me but I would still rather be elsewhere with some very special > > people who share purpose, together in Utopia, perhaps in that > > parallel. Will you join me? > > > On Apr 15, 6:46 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > To effect change we must change the > > > purpose of others, > > > > This, I think, is the most complicated and difficult path to change, > > > as it establishes duality and opposition and not unity. And yet, I do > > > see it is the path most often taken. What I see is: There are no > > > others that do not include me. We are them. Change your purpose, > > > change the world. Inspiring change may be as simple as connecting > > > others to the beautiful. Or introducing a path that allows the > > > unfoldment of self and fulfillment of potential. This inspiration is > > > possible when you yourself can feel it and live from it. Your > > > expression then flows directly from the truth that connects us all. > > > > On Apr 15, 1:35 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I guess that is taking the ball and running with it, Molly. I > > > > wouldn't go so far as to concur with Blake and Goddard, though their > > > > perspectives are well taken. I still stand on the other side of the > > > > fence with several issues presented while noting that my intent was to > > > > open a closed door concerning the "possibilities" now available > > > > through recognition of quantum parallel theorems. Theirs is more of a > > > > declaration and affirmation based on biblical reference, an intended > > > > exclusion in my post. I may have alluded to a supreme being but not > > > > necessarily one that assumes the role or title of a god and all the > > > > precepts of such. Within our immediate cosmological realm I perceive > > > > not a deity based world but one that is primarily based on our own > > > > individual and group purpose; ergo, conflicts arise from the diversity > > > > of individual and group purpose. To effect change we must change the > > > > purpose of others, which may be next to impossible but nevertheless > > > > necessary to bring harmony to a world that has been embroiled in > > > > perpetual turmoil throughout human history. Change does not always > > > > occur within a single generation, nor several generations, but humans > > > > will strive in their vicissitude of human life experience to create a > > > > peaceful world, individually and as a group. Hopefully, that will be > > > > the collective purpose; a congruity of ideas. > > > > > On Apr 14, 9:36 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I agree to Slip's insight. To it, I would add the insights of two of > > > > > my favorite Christian Mystics, who wrote about the idea of imaginal > > > > > consciousness: > > > > > > "I could tell you from now until the end of time that your own > > > > > Wonderful Human Imagination is God, and you could hear it but never > > > > > apply it. Quite often we cannot bring ourselves to apply it because it > > > > > is in conflict with our training, but it does not operate itself, we > > > > > are the operant power. > > > > > > We are told in the 118th Psalm, "The stone which the builders rejected > > > > > has become the chief cornerstone. This is the Lord's doing; it is > > > > > marvelous in our sight." > > > > > > Many years ago, sitting in the silence, my eyes closed in > > > > > contemplation but not really thinking of anyone partic¬ular thing, a > > > > > huge quartz appeared before my eyes. Then it shattered, fragmenting > > > > > itself into many, many pieces. As I watched, it quickly reassembled > > > > > itself, but this time it took on the human form seated in the lotus > > > > > posture. As I look¬ed, I realized I was looking at myself. Then it > > > > > began to glow, and when it reached the intensity of the sun, it > > > > > exploded and I awoke in my chair. > > > > > > The stone I had rejected was myself. I could not believe I, myself, > > > > > was the cause of the phenomena of my life. I thought "he" did it, > > > > > "she" did it, "they" did it . . . the world did it, but certainly I am > > > > > not responsible. These things happened because of others, but I looked > > > > > at the stone which the builders rejected. "It's the Lord's doing and > > > > > it is marvelous in our sight." > > > > > > When we see this world as a world of appearance behind which the > > > > > reality of imagining lies, we find the truth. All things exist in the > > > > > human imagination, and by that I mean the individual's imagination. In > > > > > your own bosom you bear your own heaven and your earth, and all that > > > > > you behold, though it appears without, it is within, in your > > > > > imagination, of which this world of mortality is the foundation stone. > > > > > It is the tree. Christianity is its fulfill¬ment. It is the fruit, but > > > > > the tree is Judaism, and all that it contains will come out, > > > > > eventually, in a plan, a wonderful plan that was there in the > > > > > beginning of time. That, we call Christianity. > > > > > > Blake said, "I know of no other Christianity and no other gospel than > > > > > the liberty both of body and mind, to exercise the divine arts of > > > > > imagination." Then he adds, "The apostles knew of no other gospel and > > > > > the worship of God is using his gift." Then he states, "God became as > > > > > we are, that we may be as he is." What is the gift? Blake also > > > > > mentions that. He said, "Man is imagination, and God is man and exists > > > > > in us and we in him. The eternal body of man is the imagination and > > > > > that is God Himself, the Divine Body, Jesus." As you are seated here, > > > > > it's all about you. Your own Wonderful Human Imagination is the God of > > > > > the universe. That is the one spoken of as the Lord Jesus. Is it > > > > > really true? You are called upon to test it and see. I rejected the > > > > > fact that I was the cause of the phenomenon of my life and thought > > > > > everyone outside of myself caused it. Then I saw the vision. Here is a > > > > > stone, a quartz, fragmented, then it came together in the shape of a > > > > > man seated in the lotus posture. As I looked at it I saw that it was > > > > > myself. Then I realized I was the cause. He is the dreamer in me. One > > > > > day he is going to awake from this dream, and, when he awakes, I am he > > > > > and he and I are One." > > > > > > - Neville Goddard > > > > > > On Apr 14, 9:07 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > When considering theories of parallel universes one must consider > > > > > > that > > > > > > life, of any form, may exist elsewhere. With this consideration one > > > > > > must rethink the concepts of purpose and of a supreme being, even > > > > > > one > > > > > > that may have initiated the creation of our universe. 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