Let me see if I have this right....If I show excessive fear of...a
dog, a mountain lion, a hippo....and I am attacked I can be the one at
fault?

On Apr 23, 8:37 am, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm sorry Slip, but with very few exceptions, a dog that smells fear
> will generally attack and a dog that sees someone running away from
> them will chase and possibly attack.   In most cases of attack by dog
> the dog was either raised to be vicious -- in which case it is not the
> fault of the person being attacked, but rather of the owner and in
> that case -- IMHO, both the owner and the dog should be put down OR
> the person who was attacked did something to provoke the dog or showed
> excessive fear of the dog.  My dog Zoe is as gentle as they come and
> has never attacked or bitten anyone (other than another dog who was
> after her food), but she has run into people twice that had an
> irrational fear of dogs and while she didn't attack them, she growled
> menacingly at them and bared her teeth.
>
> I think it fits with the sage advice that the only thing we have to
> fear is someone who is afraid of us.   It works with humans, dogs and
> probably a lot of other creatures as well.
>
> On Apr 20, 6:33 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > That is a personal view gruff, you can't be serious as to suggest that
> > some of the people in the "canine homicide" link were "more" at fault
> > than the dogs that attacked them, unprovoked that is.  Why is an 80
> > year old woman more at fault for getting mauled to death by a dog when
> > she is peacefully working in her garden?  Dogs are wild beasts as are
> > the tigers that mauled Roy Horn.  People just have this notion that
> > they can keep these huge muscular dogs, with a history of attacking
> > without provocation, as sweet little pets.  I have 3 Chihuahuas and
> > can see how vicious they can get so I wouldn't trust them if they
> > weighed in over 100 pounds.  I have as you, fended off attacking dogs
> > simply by acting like the dogs master or showing enough aggression to
> > make the dogs think twice about messing with me, but this in know way
> > lessens the fact that dogs can be dangerous.
> > The number of attacks is evidence enough.
>
> > On Apr 19, 6:01 pm, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I think a lot of dog attacks are more the fault of the people who got
> > > bit than the dog.
>
> > > I hike around the desert quite a bit and have run into wild dog packs
> > > and coyote packs more than a few times.  The two things you don't want
> > > to do are show fear or run.  Dogs can smell fear and they will chase
> > > down anything that runs.
>
> > > I've faced down menacing dogs and dog packs many times by just
> > > standing my ground an ordering them back in a loud aggressive voice.
> > > Sometimes I even make a menacing move toward them.  This same strategy
> > > works with bears too (with the sole exception of perhaps grizzlies and
> > > polar bears.)  This strategy does NOT work with wild cats.  There was
> > > an incident here in Arizona just the other night.  A bobcat strolled
> > > into a bar in Phoenix and clawed up quite a few people before it found
> > > its way out of the bar.  Maybe they didn't want to serve him (or her.)
>
> > > On Apr 19, 12:10 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Truth is, as I see it, dogs have been known to attack their owners
> > > > without provocation, with many attacks resulting in the fatality of
> > > > the owner.   So I think people forget that all dogs are "animals" once
> > > > wild and untamed and have an innate violent nature which can emerge at
> > > > any given time.  The statistics presented in the link show that not
> > > > only vicious dogs are known to cause death, as was the case with the
> > > > Pomeranian killing the infant.   The correlation between dogs and
> > > > owners may have some credence within a controlled study and
> > > > accumulated statistical data but overall dogs, regardless of the
> > > > owner's temperament, can be vicious.  
> > > > http://www.dogbitelaw.com/PAGES/danger.htm#meaning
> > > > I found this website to be a worthwhile read with current statistical
> > > > data.  Read through "Canine Homicides" for a real eye opener.- Hide 
> > > > quoted text -
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