to tell u the truth, sometimes i wish i was living in a cave rather in
this base society. u can teach almost anybody anything, but u cant
make them believe u or want to accept what u are preaching. if u think
you can convince every single person on the planet to listen to an
idealistic diatribe, and then ensure that all follow the 'rules of
community' (or whatever you want to call the new bible), and then
guarantee that all live within these 'rules', u are welcome to try.
why not start small. gather 20 people in your community, from all
walks of live, with diverse morals, rich and poor and give them one
nice green book of rules that they will HAVE to live by. dont offer
them anything in return, except a bit of a nicer neighborhood to live
in. monitor these people night and day for a month. if your concept
works in this small litmus test i will conceed that it might be
possible as a global endeaver. please report the results back to
www.iwishyouluck.hope ;-^)

On Apr 26, 4:42 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
> You must be living in a cave if you think the media cannot teach the
> general masses something they don't want to know.
> Or maybe a part of the mindless mass :-)
>
> peace & Love
>
> On Apr 26, 7:28 am, e_space <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > one cannot 'establish' collective mentality...it must be wanted by all
> > participants...unfortunately i cannot ever fathom this happening...
>
> > On Apr 25, 10:39 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Rosey,
> > > If a collective mentality as proposed were established it would be an
> > > evolutionary leap for mankind that would overcome the base mentality
> > > which supports your negative resurgence theory.
>
> > > peace & Love
>
> > > On Apr 25, 10:28 pm, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Collective mentality?
>
> > > > It would be ideal for the human race to gain a collective mentality
> > > > and proceed with peace and maintain a complete understanding of each
> > > > other.  It would seemingly be a progression where people no longer
> > > > thought of each other with bad intentions.  All evil would eventually
> > > > be eliminated.  However, it's too good to be true.
>
> > > > Eventually, people would rebel, they would object to this simulation
> > > > of a perfect world.  The human being would not be tolerant of
> > > > continuously steering into a straight path.  Eventually they will wnat
> > > > to make a turn some where.  War is inevitable.  Unfortunately
> > > > disastrous and non-sensical to many and necessary.  But without war,
> > > > the human being would be less likely to develop compassion from the
> > > > pain instilled due to war.  War has its benefits, one example would be
> > > > taming the popluation (a very crucial example at that).  What do you
> > > > think?
>
> > > > On Apr 25, 1:51 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Hoi hoi,
> > > > > Highly so and I do ascribe to the ideals of Thoreau, but the term was
> > > > > used in the pejorative sense and I think the Collective terms are more
> > > > > positive, and might also imply direction.  The differentiation lies in
> > > > > the subtle complexities.  The transcendentalists had other issues with
> > > > > religious and spiritual undertones, in the classic sense.   Collective
> > > > > Mentality is a purer and simpler form without the baggage of
> > > > > religiosity.  A group of atheists could have a collective mentality.
> > > > > If anything it would hinge on Kantian Idealism, of which I'm only
> > > > > slightly familiar with.  The point I'm attempting to get at and the
> > > > > answers I'm pursuing pertain more to the methodology, for the
> > > > > achievement of collective mentality.
>
> > > > > On Apr 25, 12:16 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Hoi slip,
> > > > > > We know of the Collective Intelligence and Collective subconscious
> > > > > > concepts but can we ever achieve the Collective Mentality?
>
> > > > > > this sounds a great deal like "Transcendentalism" The totality of
> > > > > > knowledge..  but go on..
> > > > > > Allan
>
> > > > > > can be possible if you let it be possible.
>
> > > > > > On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 5:40 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > We know of the Collective Intelligence and Collective subconscious
> > > > > > > concepts but can we ever achieve the Collective Mentality?
> > > > > > > Planet Earth, the Cosmic War Zone, perpetually embroiled in 
> > > > > > > conflict.
> > > > > > > Wherever you look for peace most likely you will find war.  Can we
> > > > > > > ever overcome this primordial instinct of waring?
> > > > > > > We have covered many areas of the mind, of dreams, quantum 
> > > > > > > theorems,
> > > > > > > emotions and ideologies.  Let's take a breather and take a serious
> > > > > > > look at how we can create an exchange of peaceful ideals by
> > > > > > > interlocking all of humanity within the collective intelligence. I
> > > > > > > know at first it appears as an oxymoron considering the collective
> > > > > > > idiocy that now dominates the earth realm.  However, I think it 
> > > > > > > might
> > > > > > > be possible to engage all of humanity within a Collective 
> > > > > > > Mentality.
>
> > > > > > > Do you think this is at all possible.  By what method would you 
> > > > > > > pursue
> > > > > > > this global metamorphosis? Are we as a global community doomed to
> > > > > > > perpetual waring?  Is there a reason/point/goal for waring?  Is 
> > > > > > > there
> > > > > > > some spiritual aspect to war in that the elimination of another 
> > > > > > > is of
> > > > > > > benefit?
>
> > > > > > > I see no accomplishment in war except death without any positive
> > > > > > > result other than rebuilding post destruction.
>
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> > > > > >  )
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