What do I think? I think it would not be a "simulation" of a perfect world but a reality that all of humanity created through collective mentality. I think you are wrong about the tolerance of humanity and especially the "straight" path as you put it. It is not a straight path as opposed to a wrong path but simply a unison, a harmony, a semblance of similar thought. I think war is not inevitable but a simple perception, in our human history, as a solution to problematic situations with disregard to amicable solution. War is the easy way out, kill the problem, over and done. War has become so morally acceptable and so every piss ant country in the world thinks the way to peace is through the development of sophisticated weaponry, even though the costs of which result in the starvation and hardship of the citizenry. I think humanity, in spite of technological advances, has not progressed much further than that of the chimpanzee. I think you are terribly wrong about the compassion of humanity and the assumption that one must experience pain in order to appreciate pleasure. Should I chop off my left hand so that I can appreciate the right hand more? There will still be, without war, situations that evoke compassion, such as natural disasters and tragedies. I think there is absolutely no benefit to war other than that which is derived by those who engage in the senseless act of war. George Bush engaged war in Iraq and thousands of innocent men, women, and children lost their lives. When you think that it is acceptable to kill thousands of people because Saddam killed thousands of Kurds then you are certifiably insane. Do you seriously think that there will ever be the "war to end all wars"? We've been waring for thousands of years without resolution. The only answer to all the problems plaguing humanity is collective mentality. Fact is collective mentality is already in progress in specific areas of living, such as the movement to reduce pollution of our planet, the sustenance of our existence. You see, we have as well engaged in other practices that are detrimental to our survival and we are addressing those issues and making drastic changes, so it will be that one day humanity realizes that war is not the answer to peace. To hell with the war mongering military industrial complex and other industries that reap massive profits upon the delivery of ineffective and inferior product. Ultimately it is the people that bear responsibility for the mere fact of supporting such industries without complaint. Equally it will be the people that will, as a collective mentality, effect change, positive change for the common good. We have been sunken in the pit of apathy and cajoled into the mode complacency for so long that we have lost sight of the fact that "we the people" wield the power of change. As I said earlier, it all starts with one, you.
On Apr 25, 9:28 pm, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote: > Collective mentality? > > It would be ideal for the human race to gain a collective mentality > and proceed with peace and maintain a complete understanding of each > other. It would seemingly be a progression where people no longer > thought of each other with bad intentions. All evil would eventually > be eliminated. However, it's too good to be true. > > Eventually, people would rebel, they would object to this simulation > of a perfect world. The human being would not be tolerant of > continuously steering into a straight path. Eventually they will wnat > to make a turn some where. War is inevitable. Unfortunately > disastrous and non-sensical to many and necessary. But without war, > the human being would be less likely to develop compassion from the > pain instilled due to war. War has its benefits, one example would be > taming the popluation (a very crucial example at that). What do you > think? > > On Apr 25, 1:51 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hoi hoi, > > Highly so and I do ascribe to the ideals of Thoreau, but the term was > > used in the pejorative sense and I think the Collective terms are more > > positive, and might also imply direction. The differentiation lies in > > the subtle complexities. The transcendentalists had other issues with > > religious and spiritual undertones, in the classic sense. Collective > > Mentality is a purer and simpler form without the baggage of > > religiosity. A group of atheists could have a collective mentality. > > If anything it would hinge on Kantian Idealism, of which I'm only > > slightly familiar with. The point I'm attempting to get at and the > > answers I'm pursuing pertain more to the methodology, for the > > achievement of collective mentality. > > > On Apr 25, 12:16 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hoi slip, > > > We know of the Collective Intelligence and Collective subconscious > > > concepts but can we ever achieve the Collective Mentality? > > > > this sounds a great deal like "Transcendentalism" The totality of > > > knowledge.. but go on.. > > > Allan > > > > can be possible if you let it be possible. > > > > On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 5:40 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > We know of the Collective Intelligence and Collective subconscious > > > > concepts but can we ever achieve the Collective Mentality? > > > > Planet Earth, the Cosmic War Zone, perpetually embroiled in conflict. > > > > Wherever you look for peace most likely you will find war. Can we > > > > ever overcome this primordial instinct of waring? > > > > We have covered many areas of the mind, of dreams, quantum theorems, > > > > emotions and ideologies. Let's take a breather and take a serious > > > > look at how we can create an exchange of peaceful ideals by > > > > interlocking all of humanity within the collective intelligence. I > > > > know at first it appears as an oxymoron considering the collective > > > > idiocy that now dominates the earth realm. However, I think it might > > > > be possible to engage all of humanity within a Collective Mentality. > > > > > Do you think this is at all possible. By what method would you pursue > > > > this global metamorphosis? Are we as a global community doomed to > > > > perpetual waring? Is there a reason/point/goal for waring? Is there > > > > some spiritual aspect to war in that the elimination of another is of > > > > benefit? > > > > > I see no accomplishment in war except death without any positive > > > > result other than rebuilding post destruction. > > > > -- > > > ( > > > ) > > > I_D Allan- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
