I don't agree with you. Could you define what you understand by "sense of hierarchies"? What are its qualities? How would you test for it? Is this sense somehow connected to the "I" you defined? If so, would you also reject the evolutionary aspect of hierarchical orders?
But maybe you are still up to something like: Hier's archieeeeeeeeeeee! ;-) On 28 Apr., 10:21, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > And, yes...we have no bananas...we have no bananas today.... > > Back to identity...(sccrreeeeeccchhh!!!)) > > I am not my past nor am i my future. I am not what is external. I am > not my thoughts nor my body....so, what am I? No, not a riddle, true > Socratic questions. > As humans, we all have a sense of hierarchies...thus know 'where' in > society we 'fit in'...yet, is this a fixed role?...like being Brahman? > No, clearly that isn't the case...unless we identify so fully with a > position as to make movement impossible. > Are we what we do? For some belief structures...yes...but in any > ultimate sense, no...we are not mere activity or motion. Are we > identified by our ethics?...a more interesting question to me at > least. I think not..but will listen to other views. > So, no O. Henry ending... > > On Apr 27, 11:19 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I can think of a bunch we might throw to Orn to make him Slip! We are > > all 42% bananas. I wannabe free of advertising. > > > On 27 Apr, 17:15, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Heh surely you mean the middle? > > > > On 27 Apr, 16:05, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > If the class is to be determined by who you are then you are "of the > > > > working class", however if the determination is based on social > > > > economic status the you would be middle class. > > > > > Go to the top of the class Lee! > > > > > On Apr 27, 9:40 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Well to put it into the context of Slips original post. > > > > > > If I come from a working class background, and yet earn enough to keep > > > > > myself and my dependants living in a middleclass lifestlye, what class > > > > > am I actualy? > > > > > > On 27 Apr, 14:01, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Ohhhhhhh, good one, can we become without doing? > > > > > > > On Apr 27, 5:44 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hey Slip, > > > > > > > > The short answer would be we are defined by what we do. > > > > > > > > Your background does not matter, as much as which actions you > > > > > > > perform. > > > > > > > > On 26 Apr, 03:27, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I find that many people regardless of their social status, > > > > > > > > socio- > > > > > > > > enconomic level or general upbringing sometimes identify with > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > which they are not. Some call them a "wannabe". Whatever the > > > > > > > > label > > > > > > > > whatever the alter ego it still remains the same, people > > > > > > > > relating with > > > > > > > > that which they are not. > > > > > > > > > Actor extraordinaire Daniel Day-Lewis once said, > > > > > > > > "I came from the educated middle class but I identified with the > > > > > > > > working classes. Those were the people I looked up to. The lads > > > > > > > > whose > > > > > > > > fathers worked on the docks or in shipping yards or were > > > > > > > > shopkeepers. > > > > > > > > I knew that I wasn't part of that world, but I was intrigued by > > > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > They had a different way of communicating. People who delight in > > > > > > > > conversation are often using that as a means to not say what is > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > their minds. When I became interested in theater, the work I > > > > > > > > admired > > > > > > > > was being done by working-class writers. It was often about the > > > > > > > > inarticulate. I later saw that same thing in Robert De Niro's > > > > > > > > early > > > > > > > > work - it was the most sublime struggle of a man trying to > > > > > > > > express > > > > > > > > himself. There was such poetry in that for me." > > > > > > > > > Are we who we are or are we that which we identify with, or > > > > > > > > possibly a > > > > > > > > combination of both? > > > > > > > > > Personally I think that in someway we all identify with specific > > > > > > > > things in the external world that we feel suits our personal > > > > > > > > desire, > > > > > > > > want or need and then by adopting that identity we somehow > > > > > > > > learn to be > > > > > > > > that which we identify with, unless it is beyond our capacity to > > > > > > > > become that. > > > > > > > > > Is that a distraction from who we "really" are? Is the constant > > > > > > > > bombardment from multi-media a detriment to the development of > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > true self? > > > > > > > > > Do we waste much of our time in youth attempting to emulate > > > > > > > > that which > > > > > > > > we are intrigued by only to realize later in life the reality > > > > > > > > of who > > > > > > > > we really are?- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
