Many of the self help books you mention are poorly written or
hopelessly out of date.  The effective self help book or group of
tapes will be entertaining as well as informative.  Many also have a
religious aspect which offends some people.  I enjoyed Zig Ziegler
tapes when I was young but I don't recommend him now as he is
certainly out-of-date and he also has a religious theme.  He told
funny, allegorical stories.  The basic goal, I think, of most of these
types of books(besides to make the author money) is to give the reader
a way to create order from chaos.  And to whenever possible; keep it
simple.

dj

On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 5:04 AM, pol.science kid <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> you know I agree with you space... i kinda avoid books with an
> ideological or philosophical bent(except for my academic books of
> course).... i get angry reading them.. if i disagree with the point of
> view.. and end up irritable....that is why i prefer
> stories...novels..literary pieces... plus i absolutely hate the self
> help buks like  'think positive' 'you can win' '10 steps to
> happiness'... they seem so shallow... its like they try to apply a
> formula to life.. narrow it down.. how can you give steps to
> happinesss... ridiculous....
>
> On May 15, 9:59 pm, e_space <[email protected]> wrote:
>> id recommend Damien by Herman Hesse (or any of his books), but that
>> was the last book of any signifigance that i read and that was about
>> 35 years ago...Hesse is sorta good because he intertwines his
>> philosophy into a neat novel form...it isnt clinical...
>>
>> why did i stop reading? while making my way through Damien i noticed
>> that the way the kid thought (it was actually Hesse doing the
>> thinking) was very similar to the philosophy that i was developing
>> myself. scared that i would derail my own natural growth process, i
>> deemed that i would not read any book that wasnt comprised of mostly
>> large pictures! i have learned a lot since then, but not from reading
>> the words of others...a lot of people disagree with my approach, but
>> thats ok...its my life...right?
>>
>> On May 15, 11:25 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > I'd recommend ' A theory of justice' By John Rawls...
>>
>> > On May 15, 2:53 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > > Currently reading 'The Voyge of the Beagle'.  I'd recomend it.
>>
>> > > On 14 May, 17:41, e_space <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > > > ill get back to u on that once i have determined what subject u are
>> > > > talking about
>>
>> > > > On May 13, 8:16 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
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