Yours is another tired plea for the supremacy of empiricism in areas that are beyond the limits of empiricism. Acquaint yourself with Venn diagramming and get back to me. Then we can talk.
As Maslow said, "If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail." For the appropriate ways of attuning yourself to Divine Consciousness see the local cleric of your choice. On May 18, 2:42 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > And where would this "awareness" come from, OM? If it doesn't come from our > senses, it is an assumption. > > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 12:29 PM, omprem <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Wrong. Religion assumes nothing but is aware directly of the Divine. > > Those methods of atheists are inadequate to do the job you expect of > > them. They are only useful within the time and space of a relative > > universe. God is beyond time and space and thus beyond the limits of > > your chosen methods. > > > On May 18, 10:52 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Spiritualism assumes the presence of the divine, Om. Atheists assume > > nothing, and wait to be shown the truth of the thing using materialist and > > rationalist methods. > > > > [ Attached Message ]From:omprem <[email protected]>To:"\"Minds Eye\"" < > > [email protected]>Date:Mon, 18 May 2009 06:08:52 -0700 > > (PDT)Local:Mon, May 18 2009 9:08 amSubject:[Mind's Eye] Re: AI > > > > On May 17, 7:29 am, EarthAngel <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > It leaves atheists in the same position as everyone else, in the > > > > unknown zone. We as humans can only theorise on any given scientific > > > > or religious assumption. > > > > OMPREM: Wrong. Religion offers methods for knowing the Divine > > > absolutely, completely, and unequivocally and for knowing that we are > > > God incarnate so to speak. Atheism claims to use only reason and logic > > > which are inadequate to access the Divine so you are correct that > > > Atheists are confined only to opinion because they confine themselves > > > to a relative view of their world and deny the most significant aspect > > > of humans - their spiritual nature. > > > > Each and every person on this planet has > > > > > their piece to contribute to this great puzzle of life we live in. And > > > > that is without adding every other being that lives grows and breathes > > > > on this earth. > > > > > On May 17, 7:06 am, gruff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > And just where does that leave us atheists? > > > > > > On May 15, 5:11 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > All is God is Love is All is God is Love is All is God is Love is > > All > > > > > > is God is Love is... > > > > > > > peace & Love- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
