I think we have a differance of opinion there then Rigs ole buddy ole pal!
Sorry state? I think we are magnificent! On 25 June, 13:56, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > Satan was beloved- once. Perhaps God needs an adversary- how else does > God explain the sorry existance of mankind? > > On Jun 25, 7:40 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > Hey Molly, > > > So here you speak about evil as existant in the realm of spirt? Would > > you agree then that A definition of such an evil would be that which > > bars us from God? > > > I must admit my own thoughts have taken me in this direction then away > > and then back again. Indeed for a time in my life I equated Satan not > > as the Christian concept of the actual fallen angel but more in line > > with it's Hebrew translation, adversary, or to block, or that which > > keeps your mind foucsed on everything but God. > > > On 25 June, 13:17, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I am not sure that the concept of evil has been or is limited to > > > behavior. Theosophy and Anthroposophy, Hermetics and other systems > > > all include ideas of evil that are inherent in us and life, and form > > > the opposition to spirit. Christianity is based on the well known > > > story of Adam and Eve;s fall from grace, having tasted the fruit of > > > the tree of knowledge of good and evil and tempted by Lucifer to do > > > so. To my thinking, much of what we know, are aware of and experience > > > includes opposition and the spectrum that lies between. This is often > > > how we measure change. Good and evil, bad and good, right and wrong, > > > all concepts of duality that we form as a way to understand our > > > experience. > > > > I thought the movie with Kate Winslett, The Reader, was fascinating > > > because it presented the notion that we cannot judge the German people > > > who participated in Nazi society during the war on the basis of > > > morality, or even on a legal basis of our time, but must judge them > > > according to the laws of their own society in their own time. This > > > really speaks to the concept of "our reality" and how our behavior is > > > effected by our cultural norms, survival needs and societal laws of > > > our place and time. Which is different from other places and times. > > > And so, evil as behavior, becomes relative. > > > > Rudolph Steiner does a good job of defining the notion of opposition > > > (good and evil) in volumes that address his idea of the Christ and > > > universal opposing forces. His idea is that through epochs of time, > > > there are three different opposing forces that call each of us away > > > from spirit, unity consciousness, or the Christ. We are currently in > > > the epoch of the Azurus, that manifests in material possession and > > > technology. As we place our identity more in these than in our own > > > spiritual nature, the forces of "evil" are winning. > > > > While I think there is a genius in his insight into what distracts us > > > and what connects us on a soul level, there is much of his philosophy/ > > > theosophy that loses me. But I will say that I think we need to look > > > beyond our own or someone else's individual behavior to understand > > > evil, and include that which takes us collectively away from unity > > > though good, and into separation. > > > > On Jun 25, 6:09 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Till this topic was brought up I never really looked at the definition > > > > of > > > > evil, what I had in my mind verses what is defined. Yes it would be acts > > > > and not a force that are seen as evil. I think you are right intent > > > > needs > > > > to be part of the equation. > > > > > I wonder how often the word is missed used. > > > > Allan > > > > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:19 AM, [email protected] < > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > So evil is not a force but some acts of mankind can be seen as evil? > > > > > I guess then intent needs to be part of this equation? > > > > > -- > > > > ( > > > > ) > > > > I_D Allan- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
