Satan was beloved- once. Perhaps God needs an adversary- how else does God explain the sorry existance of mankind?
On Jun 25, 7:40�am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hey Molly, > > So here you speak about evil as existant in the realm of spirt? �Would > you agree then that A definition of such an evil would be that which > bars us from God? > > I must admit my own thoughts have taken me in this direction then away > and then back again. �Indeed for a time in my life I equated Satan not > as the Christian concept of the actual fallen angel but more in line > with it's Hebrew translation, adversary, or to block, or that which > keeps your mind foucsed on everything but God. > > On 25 June, 13:17, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I am not sure that the concept of evil has been or is limited to > > behavior. �Theosophy and Anthroposophy, Hermetics and other systems > > all include ideas of evil that are inherent in us and life, and form > > the opposition to spirit. �Christianity is based on the well known > > story of Adam and Eve;s fall from grace, having tasted the fruit of > > the tree of knowledge of good and evil and tempted by Lucifer to do > > so. �To my thinking, much of what we know, are aware of and experience > > includes opposition and the spectrum that lies between. �This is often > > how we measure change. �Good and evil, bad and good, right and wrong, > > all concepts of duality that we form as a way to understand our > > experience. > > > I thought the movie with Kate Winslett, The Reader, was fascinating > > because it presented the notion that we cannot judge the German people > > who participated in Nazi society during the war on the basis of > > morality, or even on a legal basis of our time, but must judge them > > according to the laws of their own society in their own time. �This > > really speaks to the concept of "our reality" and how our behavior is > > effected by our cultural norms, survival needs and societal laws of > > our place and time. �Which is different from other places and times. > > And so, evil as behavior, becomes relative. > > > Rudolph Steiner does a good job of defining the notion of opposition > > (good and evil) in volumes that address his idea of the Christ and > > universal opposing forces. �His idea is that through epochs of time, > > there are three different opposing forces that call each of us away > > from spirit, unity consciousness, or the Christ. �We are currently in > > the epoch of the Azurus, that manifests in material possession and > > technology. �As we place our identity more in these than in our own > > spiritual nature, the forces of "evil" are winning. > > > While I think there is a genius in his insight into what distracts us > > and what connects us on a soul level, there is much of his philosophy/ > > theosophy that loses me. �But I will say that I think we need to look > > beyond our own or someone else's individual behavior to understand > > evil, and include that which takes us collectively away from unity > > though good, and into separation. > > > On Jun 25, 6:09�am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Till this topic was brought up I never really looked at the definition of > > > evil, what I had in my mind verses what is defined. �Yes it would be acts > > > and not a force that are seen as evil. �I think you are right intent needs > > > to be part of the equation. > > > > I wonder how often the word is missed used. > > > Allan > > > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:19 AM, [email protected] < > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > So evil is not a force but some acts of mankind can be seen as evil? > > > > I guess then intent needs to be part of this equation? > > > > -- > > > ( > > > �) > > > I_D Allan- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
