I always know ALL the answers(on Jeopardy.)  It's the questions I have
problems with.  As in life; sigh. *grin*

dj


On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 1:39 AM, rigsy03<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I think of my brain as a toaster- sooner or later the idea/memory/
> understanding will pop up. Some will be scorched or flaccid. Plus we
> have accumulated a lot of knowledge over the years- it might be a
> storage problem. When I watch "Jeopardy" and realize I know many of
> the answers I marvel at the brain's retention.
>
> On Jun 26, 1:16 pm, retiredjim34 <[email protected]> wrote:
>> rigsy - thanks for responding. My notion is not that we can't remember
>> more than a few days. It is that our physical brain does not have the
>> capacity to store more than a few days' memories. So they must be
>> stored elsewhere. Where might that be? I propose that it is part of a
>> consciousness that goes beyond this physical plane. That's why I
>> mentioned the out of body stories. Jim
>>
>> On Jun 20, 3:55 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > I dispute your notion that we cannot remember beyond a few days- I
>> > have a fierce memory- though I may have to ask myself what was purpose
>> > of my entering a room, cabinet, etc. Our dead continue to exist- they
>> > are in our bones of memory, our appearance, habits, quirks. My
>> > daughter is just beginning to find this out and I am quite silent
>> > while I watch her journey- why ruin the surprise?
>>
>> > On Jun 18, 3:16 pm, retiredjim34 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > >         For some time, being retired, I have been thinking about such
>> > > ultimate questions as: why are we here, what is life all about, what
>> > > happens when we die, and do we continue to exist after we die. Drawing
>> > > on a lifetime of reading and experience, I think I’ve arrived at some
>> > > unusual answers.
>> > >         To begin building a foundation for those answers, I first 
>> > > wondered
>> > > about just who I am; what is it that is me? I don’t believe I’m the
>> > > reflection I see in the mirror. No. If I lost an arm or leg, I still
>> > > believe I would be 100% me. It seems that the real me, then, is the
>> > > consciousness that is within my body. Hmmm. How might I check this?
>> > >         How about my memory. During part of my working career I was 
>> > > involved
>> > > with data storage and encoding, the object being to pack as much
>> > > information into as little storage as possible. If you think about all
>> > > the things you remember – scenes, happenings, conversations, other
>> > > sounds, smells, numbers, taught information, etc. – and the capacity
>> > > of the human brain, it is clear that the human brain can remember at
>> > > most only a day or two of recent events. So where are the things I
>> > > remember stored?
>> > >         I happen to have had a couple of out-of-body experiences. I 
>> > > recall
>> > > being conscious of looking at my body lying on a bed, and of being
>> > > able to look around the room and out the window. Each time the
>> > > experience scared me, and I quickly returned to my body. But while out-
>> > > of-body I now realize that I could recall everything I could think of
>> > > while in my body; the me that was in my body was still the me that was
>> > > out of my body.
>> > >         Many books describe out-of-body experiences. The best, I think, 
>> > > is
>> > > Thirty Years Among the Dead by Dr. Carl Wickland. In it, he discusses
>> > > numerous examples of patients who had died yet whose spirit was still
>> > > “here,” entwined with another body. In each case, the spirit of the
>> > > now dead person had what seems to be a perfectly normal memory of
>> > > their life, and exhibited the personality quirks they had while alive.
>> > > So it seems that the human memory resides elsewhere that in the human
>> > > body.
>> > >         Fine, but still why am I here? Indeed, why is anybody or anything
>> > > here? Consider what “here” is. We know that this world, and everything
>> > > else in the universe, is matter disbursed in an almost infinite amount
>> > > of space. But then we also know that E=mc². In words, this "here" can
>> > > be reduced to the simple statement that all is energy, even matter. So
>> > > “here” is a vast pool of energy, a pool that includes each of us as
>> > > well as everything else in this physical universe. Yet it seems that
>> > > our memory does not reside in this physical universe, given that it is
>> > > not the me in the mirror but is present in out-of-body experiences.
>> > > Could it be that there is a consciousness, what might be called an
>> > > infinite consciousness, that contains each of our memories as well as
>> > > everything else that has ever happened anywhere in the universe at any
>> > > time, and maybe even a lot more than that? I don’t know of anything to
>> > > disprove this possibility, so let’s assume for now that it might be
>> > > correct.
>> > >         So why am I here? Well, all that is in the universe might be here
>> > > simply because it pleases the infinite consciousness that this is so.
>> > > It is simply an exercise of an attribute of that consciousness. Fine.
>> > > But why am I here? Assume that the infinite consciousness wishes to
>> > > experience this physical universe. Of course this could be done by
>> > > endowing each thing in the universe with its own consciousness. That
>> > > consciousness would know that it was part of a much greater whole. But
>> > > it would also know that it was discrete in and of itself. Yet we don’t
>> > > know that – each of us believes that we are complete and separate from
>> > > all others; we have the freedom to be whatever we choose and do
>> > > whatever we want. It’s as if there is a veil or curtain between our
>> > > discrete consciousness and the infinite consciousness, this veil
>> > > concealing our connection to the whole. (Unless we ponder such things
>> > > as where our memories are stored.) Put differently, the only way the
>> > > infinite consciousness can experience this universe from within the
>> > > universe is to use such a veil to conceal from the individual’s
>> > > consciousness his connection to the whole. Could that be why we are
>> > > here? I think so.
>> > >         So what happens at death? Drawing on this view of consciousness, 
>> > > both
>> > > individual and infinite, it would seem that all that happens at death
>> > > is that the physical body ceases to function. The individual
>> > > consciousness continues. And that is just what books like Dr.
>> > > Wickland’s report. If you want to know what happens beyond death, the
>> > > Seth books by Jane Roberts gives one view, or answer, a view that
>> > > seems to build on that expressed by Dr. Wickland.
>> > >         I would welcome reading your reaction to all this. Does it make 
>> > > sense
>> > > to you? Is this a rational and sufficient explanation of the ultimate
>> > > questions, or of why we are here? Or not?- Hide quoted text -
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