"Trying is lying." - Fritz Perls

On Jun 29, 12:16 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think it depends on the situation. Is the apology offered to clean
> up your conscience? Is making amends going to cause more pain? And
> some acts should not be forgiven, imo, though this is not the
> Christian view. In those cases, I pray for acceptance and try to move
> on. I don't have to play God or a judge- often the other has his/her
> own repercussions- plus carrying a grudge or a pail of self-pity is
> not solace for the "victim", either. Life has a large scale of
> transgressions from Nazi death camps to stupid assumptions/insults.
> Even our justice system cannot solve everything- return of the dead,
> health, fortune,etc.- but it tries. And that's something.
>
> On Jun 29, 5:39 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
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> > To my mind the request for an aplogy is nowt more than a request to
> > own up, to say look I know I done your wrong babe! So yeah I can see
> > an apology as haveing worth, value and merit if offered scincerly.
>
> > On 27 June, 21:08, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > I never have understood the request for an apology. Is it the
> > > embarrassment this brings to the apologizer we are after or do we
> > > really expect to feel better ourselves? I feel it's more likely the
> > > person's ulterior motive is to gain tort advantage. Correct me if I'm
> > > wrong Gruff, but in legalize isn't an apology akin to an admission of
> > > guilt or at least responsibility for a wrongdoing? It's a good way to
> > > get sued.
>
> > > When someone I love or respect is angry with me it's usually due to a
> > > misunderstanding. Things get said or done by one or the other of us
> > > and regret can follow. I neither want nor expect an apology. You
> > > can't take "sorry" to the bank. What I try to do when I feel bad
> > > about how I've treated someone is DO something, not say something.
> > > Talk is cheap. I pay my debts in action, not words.(I'm running out
> > > of cliches)
>
> > > In researching this topic on the internet earlier I ran across Plato's
> > > Apology. Which of course is really no apology at all but more of an
> > > accusation. In retrospect, looking back on all the times I've given
> > > insincere apologies(these are legion and expected) I did the same
> > > thing. If not out loud then certainly in my head and with my
> > > expression. Deception has never been my strong suit.
>
> > > Does an apology mean anything to you and if so, why? Help me
> > > understand why this is so important to some people.- Hide quoted text -
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