Probably the rate of increase in population really began to grow as we
learned more and more about how to swing the odds of a live birth in
our favor, and that same evolution probably also worked to increase
the odds of longevity.  Given that we are born such pathetically weak
and vulnerable creatures what can it be but our own minds that have
bent to the task of survival.  Until we are such as we are today with
developed nations MMRs being relatively low and our longevity
apparently reaching for an average of a hundred years and beyond.
Maybe we're just taking the long route to immortality?

On Jul 11, 1:25 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
> I was dubious about MMRs (Maternal  Mortality Rate) being low. After
> research, it looks like my intuition in this case was off. Apparently
> today the highest rate is in North Africa where the lifetime
> probability of such a death is 1 in 30. I stopped looking after this
> and can only guess that the ancients had difficulties too but may not
> have had good statistics. I did find that the earliest recorded
> cesarian was a few hundred years BC!!!
> Anyway….
>
> http://www.emro.who.int/publications/emhj/0602/09.htm
>
> On Jul 11, 9:58 am, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Any other growth growing in the body as fast as a fetus would be a
> > killer cancer.  A fetus is only occasionally fatal to the carrier.
>
> > On Jul 9, 10:35 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I have been doing a lot of thinking about this abortion issue.  if the
> > > doctors found a growth anywhere in the body growing as fast as a fetus,,
> > > they would be going berserk trying to kill that growth.. so what is the
> > > difference?
> > > Allan
>
> > > hmm is that called picking a fight??
>
> > > On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 6:45 PM, frantheman 
> > > <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> > > > I would indeed like to share your hope, gruff, but, as they say, "the
> > > > devil is in the details ..." In more ways than one.
>
> > > > Francis
>
> > > > On 9 Jul., 18:05, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > "... On Jul 8, 10:55 am, frantheman <[email protected]>
> > > > > wrote: ..."
>
> > > > > > Such conditions frequently compel one to
> > > > > > very careful, elaborate, precise formulations.
>
> > > > > So I could not expect people to extrapolate the details on their own?
> > > > > Hmm.  No, your right and in spades.   Our law libraries are monuments
> > > > > to the detail people and situations demand.   I was hoping speaking
> > > > > species-wide that we were a bit further along but ... oh well.
>
> > > --
> > > (
> > >  )
> > > I_D Allan- Hide quoted text -
>
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