I don't really go for this stuff Don. The US benefited greatly from late entry into the European imperialist wars that screwed the rest of us and these continue in one form or another today, perhaps led by US global strategies and economics as war by other means. The spread of war technology, including manufacturing potential around the world is very frightening, and we have all be very dumb about this in the West. Peace is where we need to go, but I don't see how unless we can all democratise. The alternative is about staying ahead in the race and I certainly don't want to be pleading to the rest of the world from a position of weakness. I'm also not sure much matters if we have to live like this. The Athenian Democracy eventually become ruthless ethic cleansers and I suspect we will too or become subject of it if the balance of power changes. None of this is acceptable, but we have already failed to change enough and armed our potential opponents with petro-dollars and manufacturing capability. Peter Dale Scott is boring, but probably gets much right on drugs, oil and war and the idiocy of global strategising. None of what he says takes us away from the cold facts that the world is short of resources and bristling with weaponry.
On 13 July, 22:36, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks for the reply iam. I have no doubt most of the armies in > Europe are well trained. What I think might concern some countries is > the lack of numbers. I am less concerned with Europe fighting amongst > themselves(although there is some precedent here- ;-/) and more > concerned about a belligerent Russia or even Turkey. I have my doubts > that Jihad will sleep just because the U.S. decides to expose our > collective throats. Turkey will be another country wanting nukes > along with Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Syria. > > Without the stabilizing influence of an outrageously strong USA I > expect some destabilization to occur in the M.E. Is Turkey still > being snubbed as a part of the E.U.? Maybe they'll get tired of the > dissing and join up with their Muslim brothers. I'm jus sayin'. > > What, no caption for the pic? Imagine what a 12 year old boy would > think as hilarious and you have what my caption is. I'm still holding > out... > > dj > > > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:06 AM, iam deheretic<[email protected]> wrote: > > Don from what I see Europe is not war minded, and its standing armies are > > very well trained and capable of defending Europe. Watching Obama display > > his tactical skills on the international circuit. If I was in a American > > court of law, I would love him for my lawyer. Please bear in mind I have > > little respect for most lawyers. Most sit in a slim ball category. > > I am very impressed with Obama's political skills, they are excellent, and > > he is a great relief after the school yard bully tactics of the G. Weasel > > Bush and his cronies. he is very pleasant. The VS is very lucky to have > > elected him president. > > All though the VS is a good European customer Europe is not totally > > dependent it. > > The capabilities of the Netherlands military were well demonstrated in Iraq > > were I think we lost of total of 3 soldiers. and the area they were > > stationed in was very peaceful while our army was there. It is a well > > respected. One of our soldiers killed a person in Iraq and the incident was > > openly and fairly investigate. It turned to be a willful murder and he was > > tried and convicted in a civilian court and he is now serving his sentence > > in a dutch prison. The Netherlands army and government is very respected in > > Iraq. > > The European armies are well trained and equipt. and not really as dependent > > on the VS for protection so maybe your comment .the scum sucking American > > war-mongers is a little more accurate than you realize. > > But this is my personal opinion and am hoping the Obama administration > > builds back some of the respect that was totally lost during the Bush years > > You should be very grateful he is serving the interest of the VS very well. > > Allan > > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:07 AM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> I ran across an interesting article today. It really contained no new > >> information for me just reiterated what I know and have posted here > >> before. > > >>http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124726554113225437.html > > >> Does any part of Europe think this is partially true or is it > >> capitalist propaganda from the scum sucking American war-mongers? > >> After we turn ourselves into the USSA who will save the innocent from > >> genocide? Who will discourage resource grabs from bully regimes? Who > >> will prevent rogue states from gaining nuclear weapons? Or without > >> our own bullying and interfering presence will all other countries > >> start to 'get along' with one another and peace and love and Unity > >> come to pass? Ok, I'm kidding around a little but my original > >> question is serious. > > >> What does the future hold for a Europe without the protection of the > >> United States? Soon raging inflation and debilitating taxes will make > >> it impossible for us to be of much help when you need it. Our current > >> debt dwarfs what we had before WWII and we'll all be in serious doo > >> doo if we are forced into another war. All our enemies know this. > > >> AND NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT > > >> Take a look at the photo in the article. Just for fun, right a > >> caption for it. I have doozy but will wait and see if anybody else > >> wants to play before I release it. Have fun. > > > -- > > ( > > ) > > I_D Allan --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
