I think that Theosophy, and the model of the seven jewels presents us
with a way of understanding our infinite being and living from it, or
applying it to our experience.  Each religion or philosophy like
Theosophy gives us a different model for understanding ourselves in
this way.

On Jul 20, 12:57 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yet another 'test'...to some, the 7 jewels that lead to wisdom as seen
> by Theosophists will be seen by some as true wisdom. Others will see
> them as ignorance. What do you think?
>
> On Jul 20, 9:41 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Many would posit that Dawkins is wise. Others, not so much. Take Mary
> > Midgley, is her view as wise, less wise or more wise than that of
> > Dawkins? How one answers this question I think will flesh out the
> > issue somewhat.
>
> >http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2009/apr/20/religion-p...
>
> > On Jul 20, 8:14 am, deripsni <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I would not consider this statement as a collection of 'truths'. I
> > > would say that some humans have these 'traits', and others do not.
> > > Also, I would say wisdom may be partially a by-product of high moral
> > > standard, but not actually a moral trait. One may be morally sound,
> > > but not necessarily wise, from my experience.
>
> > > On Jul 20, 10:38 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Confucius declared..... "Wisdom, compassion, and courage are the three
> > > > universally recognized moral qualities of men".
>
> > > > Would these be the truths that apply to everyone in some way?
>
> > > > On Jul 20, 8:59 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Truth, yes, but not relative truth, or the truth as you see it which
> > > > > is different than the truth as I see it.  Application of this will
> > > > > indeed create winners and losers.  However, there are truths that
> > > > > apply to everyone and can be applied wisdom that allows everyone to
> > > > > win in some way.
>
> > > > > On Jul 20, 5:29 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > An attempt to define wisdom can result in various conceptions.
> > > > > > However, the side affects of wisdom do  not alter that which wisdom
> > > > > > is.  Wisdom may not always be helpful to all.  Sometimes wisdom can
> > > > > > inflict pain on some in a decisive moment that considers the benefit
> > > > > > of the whole.   Helpfulness and hindrance are dimensions of wisdom 
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > they do not define wisdom.  The Judgment of Solomon demonstrates how
> > > > > > wisdom, while divining truth, had both a positive and negative 
> > > > > > effect,
> > > > > > one must gain while the other must lose.   I think there is a fixed
> > > > > > quality of wisdom, that being truth.
>
> > > > > > On Jul 20, 12:06 am, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > " Wisdom then, is, ultimately, the ability to provide answers to
> > > > > > > dilemma, provide insight beyond the obvious and present a clear
> > > > > > > perspective of a conundrum."
>
> > > > > > > Yes, Slip !  But, just a little more ...  the helpfulness 
> > > > > > > dimension of
> > > > > > > wisdom. I believe, like beauty, wisdom is what it does to me : at 
> > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > need to decide and act, to be filled with feeling / emotion that
> > > > > > > strengthens me, to think positively about the future from the
> > > > > > > situation I am in, to know clearly, and to be able to trust 
> > > > > > > myself ...
> > > > > > > my knowledge, my thoughts, my feeling, my decision and my action.
>
> > > > > > > Likewise, would wisdom affect whosoever receives it.
>
> > > > > > > On Jul 20, 5:33 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > I'm suggesting that wisdom is the ability to impart information
> > > > > > > > ordinarily unknown to an individual or a group.  The 
> > > > > > > > information is
> > > > > > > > based on knowledge and experience gained through living, 
> > > > > > > > meditation
> > > > > > > > and clairvoyance or an innate sixth sense.  Wisdom and logic are
> > > > > > > > intertwined as the acquired knowledge must be sorted, 
> > > > > > > > rationalized and
> > > > > > > > compartmentalized in order to be presented as being valid.  
> > > > > > > > Wisdom is
> > > > > > > > only useful within correlating situations.  Wisdom then, is,
> > > > > > > > ultimately, the ability to provide answers to dilemma, provide 
> > > > > > > > insight
> > > > > > > > beyond the obvious and present a clear perspective of a 
> > > > > > > > conundrum.
> > > > > > > > I'm thinking that being wise is only the opposite of being 
> > > > > > > > ignorant.
> > > > > > > > As I said before, the moron is a genius around a group of 
> > > > > > > > idiots, so
> > > > > > > > even a moron can exhibit traits of wisdom.  Just some 
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