Have a Life, deri. peace & Love
On Jul 28, 4:52 am, deripsni <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm afraid this response does not convince me to buy into any part of > your previous post, but in regards to your last statement that > "positiveness does appear as arrogant" I would again have to disagree. > Positiveness presented by a person who is in reality saturated with > "peace & Love", is typically warming and empowering to others. If the > presentation of the plus side of life seems arrogant, it is probably > due to the method in which it was presented, and not necessarily the > essence of the message itself. I must say that, so far, I don't agree > with your message, or the way you present it, but as you say "oh > well" :-) > > It often seems that you make "factual" sounding statements that are > based on "your" truth. The way you present it is that this "truth" is > the common truth for all of humanity. By doing so, you are alienating > the people who don't buy your message. Those who do not run and hide > will be your cult followers. How is membership enrollment going these > days? > > On Jul 27, 10:22 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Jul 27, 4:48 am, deripsni <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Are you suggesting God would supply the Sun with some more fuel, just > > > before it runs out? Or maybe tug another star in to replace it? ;-] > > > No. > > > > Why do you say "I believe the god Life force is contained by Earth", > > > if humans aren't even contained by Earth? What force is there to > > > contain Spirit Energy? I'm just trying to make sense of your words. If > > > it isn't gravity, what is it? > > > The "god Life force" (don't need the god) is Intelligence, nothing but > > energy. > > Our mental (spirit?) energy is a product of "Life, here and now". By > > that fact it is presently contained by Earth (with the space escapes > > becoming more regular we will [if our civilization survives] be able > > to "overcome the problem of "Earth is > > a doomed planet".") > > > > You seem to jump long distances with a single bound so I shall presume > > > you are Super Human ;-]. I am not a religion, I don't belong to a > > > religion, and I don't "worship" a God. Without attempting to describe > > > my concept of "God", I will say that I do not worship something that I > > > am part of. I cherish my spiritual feelings and they are neither > > > "unknown" or "unknowable". I suggest that you characterize this lack > > > of knowledge as your own experience, and not imply that others have no > > > such knowledge. > > > The leap was not so great in response to this statement; > > "A "defined, localized God" again flies in the face of an infinite > > energy that has no boundaries, as God's are typically worshipped as." > > - deri > > That you would "attempt" to describe your concept of this sort of God, > > makes the (so called) leap a simple step. > > I agree 100% that your spiritual 'Feeling' is very knowable and is in > > fact common to all mankind by many different definitions. > > > > I do not recall stating that I accept "insignificance" so please > > > explain that. Regarding my humanity, I do eat food and release waste > > > like most fortunate humans. Yes, it sometimes is a struggle to accept > > > my human requirements, but it seems I must while here on this > > > planet. ;-] > > > The God idea above seems to leave the existence of the 'Human on > > Earth' as insignificant. This was my reference. > > > > Your statement that "The intelligence relative to Earth is the only > > > intelligence that we need to be concerned with" seems rather > > > dictatorial. You seem to be stating that what you have determined to > > > be necessary, shall be necessary for all. Intelligence plays a > > > secondary role in comparison to spiritual enjoyment from my viewpoint, > > > and until you have described the parameters of Earth's relative > > > intelligence, I really have no idea what you are referring to. > > > I hope to have explained some of what I'm referring to so that we may > > continue discussion. > > > > Re: "I choose to have something identifiable that we can work with". > > > You seem to be saying that YOU are choosing something identifiable > > > that WE can work with. This statement comes up a bit short in several > > > ways. First of all, you have not identified anything that I have been > > > able to buy into to date, and secondly, who says that others want to > > > "work" with your concoction, or what ever it is that you want to call > > > "It"? Also, one doesn't choose "God" like they choose, or are saddled > > > with, a religion. Imo, God is an inherent ingredient that some choose > > > to ignore, and others choose to enjoy. > > > Again I hope to have added some clarity with the above, and will be > > very happy to answer any further questions. > > > > Without seeming rude, I'd like to suggest that you immerse yourself in > > > your "god Force" and glean all of the goodness out of it that you can. > > > Maybe then you will not have this rather obvious chip on your shoulder > > > that is not very well disguised with your "peace & Love" sign off. > > > Don't worry, it's allowed to be rude to me. > > I am hooked up tight with the god force of "Life here and now". > > I am told that that positiveness does appear as arrogant. > > Oh well :-) > > > peace & Love > > > > On Jul 26, 8:38 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > No, one should think that God would overcome the problem of "Earth is > > > > a doomed planet". > > > > > Who said anything was confined by gravity? We fly and go into outer > > > > space. > > > > > So, you, along with all the religions think that we need an > > > > 'unknown' (unknowable) of such awesome aspects that we must worship > > > > It. We should accept insignificance and not claim and act as the Human > > > > of God that we are? > > > > > The molehill is real, Life on Earth. To go reaching out into the > > > > cosmos for understanding is creating an unscalable mountain. Whatever > > > > is beyond the force of Life on Earth is irrelevant to Us 'here and > > > > now'. > > > > I choose to have something identifiable that we can work with. > > > > > peace & Love > > > > > On Jul 26, 5:38 am, deripsni <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > If one relates God to Earth, they also should prepare for God to die, > > > > > as Earth is a doomed planet. To think that Spirit energy, or God > > > > > energy is confined by gravity defeats every theory of God from my > > > > > perspective. A "defined, localized God" again flies in the face of an > > > > > infinite energy that has no boundaries, as God's are typically > > > > > worshipped as. This goal seems to be making a mole hill out of a > > > > > mountain? Could you please explain your reasoning? > > > > > > On Jul 25, 9:33 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I believe the god Life force is contained by Earth. This is a much > > > > > > more knowable and understandable Life force. The religions all end > > > > > > with the same unknown because they don't set parameters for > > > > > > definition. > > > > > > > 1. We need to come to understand the force working on Earth that is > > > > > > relative to Live before we go to worrying about things that are not > > > > > > relevant to Life on Earth. > > > > > > > 2. With a defined, localized God, we can learn about how It works. > > > > > > The > > > > > > intelligence relative to Earth is the only intelligence that we need > > > > > > to be concerned with. > > > > > > > 3. We are of God, God is of us and the power of God is ours. We may > > > > > > loose the power of God if we don't recognize it as our common bond. > > > > > > > 4. That's what I think. My statements have already upset many > > > > > > people. > > > > > > Oh well. > > > > > > > 5. peace & Love > > > > > > > On Jul 25, 6:29 pm, Manfraco Frank the Elder <[email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi everybody: > > > > > > > Allow me to say what I think about God > > > > > > > > I believe that there is a god life force in the universe, which > > > > > > > somehow rules over everything in the universe. This life force is > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > all religious people are talking about and while they claim and > > > > > > > state > > > > > > > that they know everything about God, they really know very little > > > > > > > about him/her/it. > > > > > > > For me: > > > > > > > (1) God may even be the whole universe, so we live within God > > > > > > > and we > > > > > > > are part of God life force. > > > > > > > (2) God may just be all the energies in the universe that have > > > > > > > crystallized with time and in the end became just like an > > > > > > > intelligent > > > > > > > entity capable of doing God’s things, like giving life to every > > > > > > > living > > > > > > > thing. > > > > > > > (3) For God to exist, God ought to be willing to please every > > > > > > > living > > > > > > > thing, if God is going to exist within our minds, otherwise we > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > forget about God and this immense god life force will be for us > > > > > > > nothing. > > > > > > > (4) What do you think? I hope I don’t upset many people with > > > > > > > these > > > > > > > statements. > > > > > > > (5) Greetings to you all, Manfraco. > > > > > > > > On Jul 25, 5:56 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure how much we have evolved, but I know we have > > > > > > > > adapted. > > > > > > > > Our inventiveness makes sure of it. > > > > > > > > > On Jul 24, 3:16 pm, retiredjim34 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Lotro - If by "God" you mean the god of the bible, then I > > > > > > > > > disagree. > > > > > > > > > Why? First, I view the bible as just a collection of campfire > > > > > > > > > stories. > > > > > > > > > Second, the god of the bible is awful - for example, he (or > > > > > > > > > she) told > > > > > > > > > Abraham to take his kid out back and kill him, and to win a > > > > > > > > > bet put > > > > > > > > > Job through the agonies of the damned, and put his "only > > > > > > > > > begotten son" > > > > > > > > > here to die a death of prolonged torture. What rational > > > > > > > > > person would > > > > > > > > > choose to believe in such a "God?" Not me. But I do believe > > > > > > > > > there is a > > > > > > > > > spirit that > > ... > > read more » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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