I definitely did not mean to imply that was the circumstance in any 'present' situation. To get the gist of the point of view, change humble to honest or honorable. Devils advocating your comment, "something so bad". It could happen. It's also possible that not doing it could get you called arrogant :-)
peace & Love On Aug 7, 4:29 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > In my humble opinion, implicitly stated, could be interpreted as an edict of > superiority? How so, as sarcasm? > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Tinker tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > A comment. > > "something so bad about adding the IMHO" > > > I do put forth my opinion when I speak, unless I am quoting someone's > > opinion verbatim. Even then my interpretation and idea attached to the other > > opinion is my opinion. > > Especially, on a forum such as this where the poster's name is prominently > > displayed with their opinion, the IMHO could be interpreted as an edict of > > ones opinion being superior. > > > peace & Love > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 12:12:11 -0400 > > Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: I am right and you are wrong > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > > First, fantastic post, which did well to question the nature of argument. > > > Second, dialectic pursuits often do challenge us to a. assume a position of > > correctness, and b. challenge an opposing position vigorously. Often, those > > minute details you mentioned are exactly why an opposing position is > > incorrect. It truly can make all the difference in the world. > > > Third, arrogance has no place in dialectics. One will always be > > unequivocally wrong at some point, for which I reserve my favorite phrase, > > Damitol. :) I like to think that the Minds Eye has less of the problems you > > mention than various other forums. > > > Fourth, is there really something so bad about adding the IMHO on to posts? > > I throw those out there frequently. I often like to have the disclaimer on > > positional statements which I know are not as fully formed and supported as > > my more axiomatic positions. > > > On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:03 PM, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > You know what I noticed about people? We all think we are > > “right.” Every damn one of us. Lucky for you , the statements I > > just made are partially wrong, so don’t take all this too seriously, > > but I am going to say it all anyway, and I am going to present > > everything I say in a tone that sounds like I believe I am right and > > that I know what I am talking about. (Why do I do that?) Why do you > > do that? > > > Anyway, everywhere on the planet people are behaving this way, from > > the smartest to the dumbest. I would say 90% of all people who post > > on an Internet forum claim they are absolutely correct about what they > > are telling you. One hundred percent of them are wrong about one > > thing or another, and so is my ridiculous estimate of 90%. (Don’t try > > and look it up, it will be wrong or distorted too) The smartest , > > most well informed people are wrong more than they might imagine, as > > they would find out if they had access all of the bonafide correct > > information in the world right in front of them, which of course is > > impossible, because it doesn’t exist. At least not in absolute form. > > But this neither occurs to them nor is any cause for pause. They > > speak to others about their information and facts as if they are > > true. > > > The 10% remaining believe they are idiots, so they don’t say too > > much. Now when the smartest people are wrong about something the > > idiots believe it, and now they are wrong too. And worse, they are > > emboldened. They now think they have some correct information to > > spread around. It is a vicious circle. > > > Is it any wonder why people can’t get along? The human race is a > > disaster. Thank god I am wrong about that. Oh sure, there are people > > who are actually “right” on the surface of it, but the more you dig, > > the wronger they get. Just like the word “wronger” (it is a very > > shallow dig with me, there is a plus side to all this) > > > Let’s say a person reads a book by an expert. They now feel that > > they too are an expert, but they didn’t really absorb the entire > > book. They think they did, but they didn’t. If they were that smart > > or that informed they would have written the book instead of reading > > it. You know that thing about telling ten people a story? Well now > > this “book report” will be passed down to the next person, slightly > > or massively distorted, and anybody who didn’t read it for > > themselves? Well they might buy into the wrong interpretation., > > carry around those wrong facts, telling people that it is true, > > things that the expert didn’t even get right! > > > Even that original “expert” will be discredited by the next > > expert, who will shred that book, tear it apart, and claim to be right > > about it. Now, the smart person poster who read the first book? And > > told you how wrong you were because of the book he read? Well he too > > has dropped that first book as “rubbish” now in favor of the new > > author, who gets some things wrong as well. But does he apologize? > > Hell no, people like that never apologize. They are never wrong about > > anything. > > > And why is it that people , when they are right, have to be such > > jerks about it? Too many people do that. “not only are you wrong, > > but here is a searing insult to go with it to really make it > > sting” (Why in the hell do I do that?) Why do you? The smartest > > people can be the meanest. And what does that say about their > > character? Do the well informed get to get away with it? Is > > knowledge more valued than character around here? Not in my book, > > maybe in yours. Oh, there are the people with actual wisdom, that > > don’t do these nasty things, but there are so few of those. They > > just say wise things, because they think they are right too, some of > > which is wrong. Just a smaller percentage is all. The world is a > > very complex place and it might not be possible to be totally correct > > and be a human being.. > > > So what do we do? Well I am going to set a new standard, I am going > > to be wrong all the time. Just to try it out and set an example. Like > > right there, see how easy that was? There is only one thing wrong > > with “wrong.” (which I feel is an improvement) but naturally none of > > this is correct. You could tear it apart, like a dog with a paper > > towel roll, but then you would be proving my point by setting examples > > of how right you need to be before everyone’s eyes! Go ahead, make > > my day. > > > There are so many smug, arrogant people in the world! It is simply > > astounding. Just listen to us! Can’t you hear it? They all think they > > are right, or have the golden truth, the mystical knowledge, and the > > pure wisdom to offer us; the less fortunate. Not only that, but we > > often have it beaten into us by a know-it-all with a meat cleaver. > > Well, they are all wrong about something. But the most dangerous > > thing is that the smarter you think you are, the less you are likely > > to admit being wrong. Look around, make a count. I rest my case. But > > nobody likes being wrong. It is the single most powerful driving > > force of all human beings if I am not mistaken, which of course I > > am. Why do we read? To become more righteous of course! We want to > > be smart. So we can tell other people about stuff and correct them > > when they are wrong! Show them how smart we are! What other possible > > reason is there? (there are several….and I am wrong about that point > > in many other ways too, but that does not stop me, nor you from this > > drive to get smarter and “informed” so you can tell more people they > > are wrong) > > > Only the idiots admit being wrong. And only because they are > > quickly pounded into submission by the more informed, with a snooty > > tone that only the smug can deliver, but the idiots can’t wait until > > they have something that they are right about so they can pound that > > nail in the head of somebody beneath them. Look at most any post in > > any forum and tell me what you see. I see somebody who thinks they > > are right, and the other is wrong. It is virtually every single > > post. (there I go again!) Well that obviously can’t be true, because > > most of the posts oppose each other! And even if they are not saying > > they are right, they are offering their opinions of which they are > > “selling” as right. Like I do. What pompous, arrogant, smug jerks > > we all are. Each and every one of us. Especially me, for writing a > > post like this. This is one hard to top, but keep reading, it gets > > even better. > > > If people were really honest, they would turn their heads from > > their computer screens right now and puke their guts out in self > > disgust in light of this horrible realization. But of course none of > > you will. Which proves my point with such indisputable precision that > > it can’t be wrong, even though it clearly is. The intellectuals have > > already stopped reading this post or discarded everything said in it > > as being drivel, and are composing their wicked reply as you read, > > further proving my point. You know what would be ironic? If a so > > often wrong person like myself could teach a valuable lesson to the > > people who think they are right all the time. Wouldn’t that be > > great? But of course that won’t happen . This post will be forgotten > > within minutes and everyone will go back to business as usual, being > > their pompous, arrogant selves, and that strengthens my points even > > more, and proves how everybody desperately wants and needs to be > > right , like the vengeful little children we are , had these things I > > am saying right now not been so ill conceived, so wholly devoid of > > logic and reason, and written with such unbelievable ignorance and > > poor taste.. > > > But you will be the first to point that out. Don’t lie, you know > > you want to! 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