I'll agree on the birth part. I think the death comes as default for not 
choosing to Live.

peace & Love

> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 20:10:32 -0700
> Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: Live forever?
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> 
> 
> L.'s 95 year old mother died this morning. He called to explain why he
> hadn't come back to get rid of the vines he had cleared yesterday- not
> that I cared about them, all wet with the rain. Her anti-depressant of
> seven years closed down her kidneys plus other infirmities. We may
> retain our mind and the body still fail. My mother sat straight up in
> her bed and announced her death which occurred moments later- clear as
> a bell to the end. I don't think we choose our birth or our death and
> not as much as we think we choose in-between.
> 
> On Aug 7, 9:20�pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I think it would be silly to give it up at that point.
> > I'll go with the quality of Life here and now and just choose to keep
> > it.
> > The idea has been discussed in another thread that we are in control
> > of our physical body if we've got our mind right.
> > Choose Life, and Live to bring about your choice :-)
> >
> > peace & Love
> >
> > On Aug 7, 11:14�am, retiredjim34 <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Slip - I suppose by the time we can control our lifespan we will have
> > > learned how to regenerate limbs, cure blindness etc. I think the
> > > question was not so much concerned with span of years, but quality of
> > > life. If we could have the quality of life we had some years ago, and
> > > maintain it forever, why not live forever? �Jim
> >
> > > On Aug 6, 1:48�pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Jtpf8N5IDE
> >
> > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnJt9p-sHho
> >
> > > > Who really does want to live forever? �Suppose the world becomes a
> > > > terrible place in which to exist, how would one cope? � Suppose one
> > > > lost a limb or two in an accident, then what? �Blindness, coma,
> > > > paralysis or any other bad deal can ruin your forever life.
> >
> > > > On Aug 6, 3:27�pm, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > > Just a spontaneous thought; Is living forever really to be preferred
> > > > > to living ever more deeply - right now?
> >
> > > > > Francis
> >
> > > > > On 6 Aug., 22:23, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > This is a wonderful topic, Jim, and I need to give it some thought.
> > > > > > Justin mentioned in a recent argumentative post that "this was the
> > > > > > kind of stuff that caused him to look forward to death" (sorry for 
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > paraphrase, Justin.) �I read that and could feel it through every 
> > > > > > part
> > > > > > of my being. �As much as I love life right now, I am not sure it is
> > > > > > enough for me, the way the world is now. �My hope is, that as I
> > > > > > change, so will the world and there will be a point of recognition
> > > > > > that will change that for me.
> >
> > > > > > Let me think about this some more. �If I could only stop thinking
> > > > > > about the Highlander. Thanks alot, Francis!
> >
> > > > > > On Aug 6, 4:01�pm, retiredjim34 <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > Many of the recent threads - evolution, non-medical healing, are 
> > > > > > > we in
> > > > > > > control, Feynman's mysteries, etc. - seem to dance around on the
> > > > > > > wavecrest of scientific discoveries. It strikes me that, given the
> > > > > > > major scientific advances in recent decades and the increasing 
> > > > > > > speed
> > > > > > > of scientific progress, in the foreseeable future - 100 years 
> > > > > > > maybe -
> > > > > > > humans may be able to elect to live without aging. We might well 
> > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > able to maintain our bodies at age 30 or 40 or whatever as long 
> > > > > > > as we
> > > > > > > like. In other words, we might be able to choose to live forever.
> > > > > > > � � �If we accept that as a possibility, I wonder what sort of
> > > > > > > philosophical issues it raises. How might our view of life and 
> > > > > > > death
> > > > > > > be changed, if at all? How would our economies adapt? Would people
> > > > > > > still marry for life? Would it change communities? Would our
> > > > > > > objectives - happy life, great wealth, friendships, learning, 
> > > > > > > travel
> > > > > > > etc. - change, and if so how? And how would we settle such issues?
> > > > > > > � � Anyone care to pursue this thread? � Jim- Hide quoted text -
> >
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> >
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