I know it probably is an odd statement coming from me, because I don't take my identity from other than my direct experience, and find meaning in that experience differently all the time. I've reached a point where I understand that my thoughts and feelings create my experience, and become somewhat efficient and keeping anxiety at a minimum. I do not fear or doubt my self or abilities, including my ability to heal myself in an instant. It may be a matter of trust for me, always a weak link. Trust in my ability to realize possibility, I suppose.
Don't get me wrong, my life is good right now. Very good, better than ever. But living forever would mean integrating those aspects of self like soul and spirit that are currently associated with death and not in my everyday experience, into my everyday experience. This seems infinitely deep, and I know it is. In this time of my life, I guess I am experiencing what Ken Wilber would call "hurts more but suffers less," (our experience of the world after what he calls the one taste, or taste of oneness.) I don't want to think about it hurting more I guess, and in some ways, that increases as time goes on, mostly because of what I see going on in the larger "mirror" or my experience of other. Even in this good group, all of the conflict would be cause for despair if the suffering weren't lessened. It hurts to see bright folks drop out because we can't get along, so I guess I am breaking my own heart because my compassion is not enough here. Boy - that was a blurb. I do better with more time to allow my thoughts to clarify I guess. On Aug 6, 4:50 pm, retiredjim34 <[email protected]> wrote: > Molly - if you mean that - As much as I love life, I am not sure it is > enough for me, the way the world is now - and would like to pursue > this, I would welcome it. I'd begin the pursuit with the observation > that what I see in the mirror is not the real me. Jim > > On Aug 6, 1:23 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > This is a wonderful topic, Jim, and I need to give it some thought. > > Justin mentioned in a recent argumentative post that "this was the > > kind of stuff that caused him to look forward to death" (sorry for the > > paraphrase, Justin.) I read that and could feel it through every part > > of my being. As much as I love life right now, I am not sure it is > > enough for me, the way the world is now. My hope is, that as I > > change, so will the world and there will be a point of recognition > > that will change that for me. > > > Let me think about this some more. If I could only stop thinking > > about the Highlander. Thanks alot, Francis! > > > On Aug 6, 4:01 pm, retiredjim34 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Many of the recent threads - evolution, non-medical healing, are we in > > > control, Feynman's mysteries, etc. - seem to dance around on the > > > wavecrest of scientific discoveries. It strikes me that, given the > > > major scientific advances in recent decades and the increasing speed > > > of scientific progress, in the foreseeable future - 100 years maybe - > > > humans may be able to elect to live without aging. We might well be > > > able to maintain our bodies at age 30 or 40 or whatever as long as we > > > like. In other words, we might be able to choose to live forever. > > > If we accept that as a possibility, I wonder what sort of > > > philosophical issues it raises. How might our view of life and death > > > be changed, if at all? How would our economies adapt? Would people > > > still marry for life? Would it change communities? Would our > > > objectives - happy life, great wealth, friendships, learning, travel > > > etc. - change, and if so how? And how would we settle such issues? > > > Anyone care to pursue this thread? Jim- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
