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On Aug 11, 9:59 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> There might be a problem with the software, friend!
>
> http://dasher.wustl.edu/tinker/
>
> On Aug 11, 9:49 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > 1. “You are on moderation again Tinker”.
> > There was no reason given till long after the fact. “again” was the
> > first time since ‘newcomer moderation’.
> > The charge that was given about three weeks after the fact was ‘ad
> > hominem’.
> > It was not a true charge.
> > The explanation sent to the moderators (below) showed them to be men
> > of honor, as the moderation was removed.
>
> > Mod Gods vs Tinker‏
> > From:    Tinker tinker ([email protected])
>
> > Sent:   Sun 8/02/09 3:57 AM
>
> > Dear Sirs,
> > It is understood how and why some ideas upset people, so that they
> > manufacture excuses to persecute the presenter of said ideas. No
> > fault, it is what it is.
> > There is hope that those in power can rise to correct the incorrect
> > action, of moderation imposed, with the truth of the situation
> > presented to them.
> >  To begin, in “Nomo Gitmo”, on June 19, post #151, gruff did ad
> > hominem Tinker in support of Chris’s and other failed attempts to
> > charge Tinker with wrong doing;
> > “Why do you and Vam and the other few rational intelligent minds here
> > bother?  If you simply ignore the annoying tick it will soon go away.
> > A tick needs fresh blood to live.” – gruff
> > A few days later Tinker engaged gruff in discussion on two different
> > threads, “Apology Smology” and “Absolute moral precepts (Abortion)”.
> > If rules of debate were in effect, it would be said that gruff was
> > defeated by Tinker’s arguments, by default {re. “Apology Smology” #60
> > and “Absolute moral precepts (Abortion)” #16, (both) on June 5}.
> > On June 6, gruff jumped to “What is Evil” #223, a discussion he had no
> > part in, for ad hominem against the one who had defeated his ideas in
> > fair debate.
> > Tinker replied to the attack disguised as ‘helpful
> > advice’ (hahahahohohohehehe), with an ‘honest’ (ruthless?... deserved,
> > yes!) discussion of the ad hominem (re. #227).
> > “What is Evil” #228 Orn did arbitrarily and capriciously place Tinker
> > on moderation without any explanation of a violation of the posting
> > guidelines. (supported by facts; 1. the time Orn came onto the forum
> > and the time he imposed the moderation did not allow sufficient
> > interval for the discussion and voting as directed by the guidelines
> > 2. Ian refused to substantiate that the proper procedure had been
> > followed in personal communication with Tinker after the fact)
>
> > Please take me off moderation.
>
> > peace & Love
> > Tinker
>
> > That was to get myself off moderation, I’d like to present a slightly
> > different view, hopefully to share some understanding. (yea, I know,
> > wish in one hand and shit in the other:-))
>
> > Anyhow, the post in question;
> > “You call me a liar with your claim that I am arrogant.
> > Your ignorance rules, as you refuse to make an effort to show any
> > error in that which I present, to substantiate your slander.
> > peace & Love”
>
> >  To begin, I was responding to the ‘idea’ gruff presented of me being
> > arrogant. I attacked the ‘idea’ presented by him, not the person.
> >  The ‘idea’ of arrogance is based in ignorance of what it is that I’m
> > trying to do, he presented the ‘idea’ so it was simply stating the
> > source of the ‘idea’, not ad hominem.
> >  Again, the slander was done by the ‘idea’ presented, and he was the
> > presenter, it was not an attack against him.
>
> > 2. I am accused repeatedly of wrong doing on the forum. There is no
> > substance to the charges, any time I ask to be shown where the charge
> > is supported, they fade away. They’ve made their slur, back in the
> > cyber hidey hole till they see an opening to pop out and do it again.
>
> > There is no fault, only the reason Why. I harbor absolutely no
> > animosity against anybody.
>
> >  Why are they picking on poor little tink? hahahahohohohehehe :-)
> > Because I’ve kicked their butt when they tried to refute the idea of
> > establishing Unity with a common point of understanding. I’ve shown
> > their other world/Life ideas to have no substance when put up against
> > Life, here and now. The plan presented is based on empirical
> > knowledge. The elements of the plan are known powers of the human mind
> > and cannot be refuted. Kill the messenger?
>
> > SO, here we go with the answer to the big Why.
> > “The Fear of the Unknown, Stirred to a Frenzy”. (see the thread, for
> > an explanation of the answer)
>
> > Is there a man, woman or mouse in the house that can get over it?
>
> > peace & Love
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