It is fascinating that you have confused me with one of the characters in my books, but I have had people wonder if the books are autobiographical, and they are not, although I do draw on life experience when writing them. Thank you for reading whatever parts you did, Slip! I am actually one of seven children (middle child oldest girl.) The only dream journal I ever kept was written briefly in college, and I did learn quite a bit from looking at the patterns in dreams over time. This is something I would suggest to anyone interested in exploring their dreams. We all have our own asemic symbolism in our dreams, and I think it may even change a bit over time. The study of our own dream journals can teach us a great deal about ourselves.
What did you mean by "cosmic dimension?" On Aug 14, 3:39 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > You contributed extensively in the original thread without any > misunderstanding. You are one of 7 children, you have an huge > compilation of dreams that your mother urged you to keep record of. > You include dreams in your writings and so have a clear understanding > of dreams being part of the fabric of our lives. > My thought was clear in that quantum travel in not possible but > perhaps it is possible within the dream state the dream world or > whatever label you would assign to it. > > On Aug 14, 8:10 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Can quantum time travel be validated in the > > dream realm through cosmic dimension? > > > I don't understand your question, Slip. How do we validate through, > > and what is cosmic dimension. > > > It is unfortunate that the conversations about dreams in this group > > are gone, they were good. As you know, I do believe that lucid > > dreaming and creative dreaming are important to us. Not only is our > > nigh time activity (on the most subtle levels) restorative, but I > > think that those eternal aspects of self speak to us, are unbound by > > the rational mind, and prepare for our next day of being. > > > On Aug 13, 7:21 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > The discussion on eternity, time and space sparked a memory of an old > > > thread I started back in September 08, and considering the amount of > > > new members I thought it would be relevant and revealing. It seems > > > the archives in ME have been swiped clean because I couldn't find any > > > old threads. So......... > > > > Are we experiencing quantum travel in our dreams? > > > > Sometimes I wonder, when I dream and it feels as if I am physically in > > > another place, if that dream is a manifestation of my subconscious > > > mind > > > or if I am experiencing a consciousness in a parallel universe or > > > within another dimension of our own universe, within our time or > > > another time. Recently astronomers found a smaller version of our own > > > solar system 5,000 light-years across the galaxy, this is the first > > > planetary system that really > > > looks like our own, with outer giant planets and room for smaller > > > inner planets. Of course it is beyond our reach physically but what > > > about our capacity to subconsciously travel through the hypothetical > > > mesh of energy in quantum physics. These energy formulations present > > > travel that exponentially exceeds the speed of light. Therefore, I > > > would hypothesize that the subconscious mind in the dream state > > > possibly enters the zero-point field, traveling to another part of our > > > universe, solar system or the next solar system. Possibly my dream > > > could be taking place on the other side of the planet or the other > > > side of the universe. Perhaps Krypton even {;-] > > > > I find some degree of correlation with dreams and the concept of time > > > travel which according to wikipedia is defined as the concept of > > > moving between different moments in time in a manner analogous to > > > moving between different points in space, either sending objects (or > > > in some cases just information) backwards in time to a moment > > > beforethe present, or sending objects forward from the present to the > > > future > > > without the need to experience the intervening period (at least not at > > > the normal rate). Some interpretations of time travel also suggest > > > that an attempt to travel backwards in time might take one to a > > > parallel universe to diverge from the traveler's original history > > > after the moment the traveler arrived in the past. Although time > > > travel has been a common plot device in fiction since the 19th > > > century, and one-way travel into the future is arguably possible given > > > the phenomenon of time dilation based on velocity in the theory of > > > special relativity (exemplified by the twin paradox) as well as > > > gravitational time dilation in the theory of general relativity, it is > > > currently unknown whether the laws of physics would allow backwards > > > time travel. Any technological device, whether fictional or > > > hypothetical, that is used to achieve two-way time travel is known as > > > a time machine. > > > > I do enjoy the Time Machine movies past and present and see some > > > validity in the concept. If you look in your yard you may see nothing > > > at the time but possibly there is something there but you can't see it > > > because it exists in that exact place but only in a different time. > > > Something like the twin towers if you were standing at ground zero and > > > could turn back time you would see them because they are there in that > > > time. > > > > Lynn McTaggart's book The Field connects our physical world with that > > > of the cosmos. This correlation is considered to be the basis for > > > spiritual healing and other earth space phenomena. This basically > > > presents a direct connection of the scientific world with that of the > > > spiritual world. Considering that dreams are of significant relevance > > > in biblical scripture, I would not dismiss these theoretical > > > explorations as whimsical notions. Old and New Testament scripture > > > clearly indicate the importance of dream acknowledgment. > > > > Walter Brueggermann, professor emeritus of Old Testament at Columbia > > > Theological Seminary in Decatur, Georgia writes....... The ancient > > > world and the biblical tradition knew about dreams. The > > > ancients understood that the unbidden communication in the night opens > > > sleepers to a world different from the one they manage during the day. > > > The ancients dared to imagine, moreover, that this unbidden > > > communication is one venue in which the holy purposes of God, > > > perplexing and unreasonable as they might be, come to us. They knew > > > too that this communication is not obvious. It requires > > > interpretation. > > > > Freud, of course, did not link dreams to the holy, which he regarded > > > as an illusion. He worked to put dream interpretation on a scientific > > > footing, transposing the religious dimension of dreams into a > > > psychological reality. Dreams were taken to be disclosure of the > > > denied part of the self particularly the self’s repressed desires. > > > Though he transposed dreams from religious to psychological realities, > > > Freud nonetheless utilized a rabbinic-midrashic interpretive method, > > > which involved a patient probing of multi-layered meanings and the > > > inscrutable, enigmatic dimensions of life. Dreams, like ancient texts, > > > require imaginative interpretation in order for us to receive what > > > they disclose. > > > > Personally I stand ambivalent in this area of the scientific or > > > spiritual approach to dreaming. I know that I have experienced > > > powerful dreams, some of which seem as though I am physically > > > somewhere else, while others appear as I'm without physical form but > > > merely a detached consciousness beyond the actual location of my > > > physical being. What remains as the most difficult task is not only > > > the interpretation of dreams but what to do with the knowledge > > > attained in the dream state. > > > > Perhaps theories of time travel are validated within the realm of > > > dream states through cosmic dimensions. > > > > There was a movie released in 1984 titled Dreamscape in which people > > > endowed with psychic abilities were used, in a dream lab study, to > > > enter into the dream of another person thereby helping to dissolve > > > reoccurring nightmares. Upon entering the dream the psychic could > > > physically move about with the patient in the patients dream with the > > > objective of confronting the cause of the nightmare. Of course there > > > are the devious characters who in the plot try to utilize the psychics > > > for their own agenda. But aside from that I found the concept very > > > interesting as it presents the aspect of a control mechanism > > > pertaining to the dream state. Imagine that you could fall asleep and > > > direct yourself to the Olympic games for a few hours and then upon > > > waking up remembering it all as a dream. This would be the ultimate > > > achievement of dream study. > > > > If I have a dream that I am smoking a cigarette, I may be in a state > > > of consciousness without a physical form or more or less tuning into > > > the conscious physical form of another person who is smoking a > > > cigarette. Unless I can identify my physical form within a dream, and > > > establish that it is actually me, then it can possibly be determined > > > that the experience is that of someone else. Let's say someone is > > > standing on a beach smoking, that person's mental energy becomes part > > > of the universal cosmic energy field. I fall asleep and my > > > subconscious becomes temporarily attuned to that person thereby > > > appearing as if I were smoking when in fact I awake to find I have > > > not. If I can ascertain the lucidity of the dream and see myself, > > > let's say in a mirror, smoking the cigarette then I would have to > > > give some thought to this theory of dream travel with the added > > > element of time. This may explain why some people dream of things yet > > > to occur in premonitory/precognitive dreams. > > > > Amiel, the philosopher, writes: "In dreams, our individuality isn't > > > > closed; the whole environment is, so to speak, wrapped in it; it is > > > the scenery and all its contents, including us. The individual who is > > > dreaming is being dissolved into the universal fantasy of > > > maya*..." (Amiel, Journal Intime, 1 12 1892) > > > > *Maya, in Indian religions, has multiple meanings. Maya, is the > > > principal deity who creates, perpetuates and governs the > > > phantasmagoria, illusion and dream of duality in the phenomenal > > > Universe. For some mystics this manifestation is real, but it is a > > > fleeting reality; it is a mistake, although a natural one, to believe > > > that Maya > > ... > > read more » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
