> It is that we've made great strides in overcoming the biases, we have > a multi-racial government, court systems and local jurisdictions so I > don't see it as a common observation. Perhaps I've been living in a > microcosm of peace and tranquility too long. I'm often shocked by > these behaviors, I mean we have a black President, we've advanced or > so I thought we did. Not?
Perhaps you have been living in a microcosm of peace and tranquility too long. If you expected to surprise anyone with the shocking contention that people utilize ethnic predictors... Everyone knows the basics - racism exists, people utilize ethnic predictors, kidnappings of rich white children receive more attention than kidnappings of poor black children, ethnic predictors can be crude proxies that yield incorrect results a significant proportion of the time. As far as I can tell, this is why some people have been asking you to justify your starting the thread. What were you hoping to start a debate about? Your last post implied you wanted to talk about stuff like the fact that the media puts a racial spin on things when a white cop shoots an unarmed black man, but not vice versa. But what angle of that, specifically, do you want to talk about? The fact that the media does that is both well-known and unsurprising (after all, there is no story about the white power structure unfairly oppressing minorities when a black cop shoots a white suspect, so why would the media report on it that way - are you arguing it should?). On Aug 18, 3:13 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > It is that we've made great strides in overcoming the biases, we have > a multi-racial government, court systems and local jurisdictions so I > don't see it as a common observation. Perhaps I've been living in a > microcosm of peace and tranquility too long. I'm often shocked by > these behaviors, I mean we have a black President, we've advanced or > so I thought we did. Not? > > On Aug 18, 12:42 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > This isn't an uncommon observation, but I've yet to hear why you think this > > is peculiar or interesting, or what the quirk in society that is being > > uncovered is. I don't find it peculiar at all, I find it to be predictable, > > common, and expected. The least common denominator of society has indeed > > reached the internet, and groups together around bright lights of interest. > > What do you think this reveals? > > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 1:27 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > This is the first post that I feel is pertinent to the thread as I > > > intended, I think you are now onto what I was thinking about. > > > Exactly, the white cop shot the black suspect and in the credit card > > > and data theft article there was not mention of race, yet because the > > > name Gonzales was given the commenters mostly focused on the > > > ethnicity. If the same charge was against a Charles Drumond, nothing > > > would have been said about immigration or ethnicity. I find this very > > > peculiar and interesting and I think it once again uncovers a quirk in > > > our society. > > > As far as the purity goes, I'm hoping to break my record! lol > > > > On Aug 18, 12:12 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > And with that in mind... > > > > I've often though about the selectiveness of ethnicity in media every > > > time I > > > > see a story that starts out "White cop shoots black suspect", but note > > > that > > > > those descriptives are missing when the ethnicities are reversed. I > > > > don't > > > > find it at all surprising that you find a comment thread on an internet > > > > forum where some people mouth off about a specific ethnicity, or make > > > some > > > > gross generalizations. Anonymity leads to stupidity, and thus John > > > Gabriel's > > > > Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory: > > > > >http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/3/19/ > > > > > <http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/3/19/>The point of contention, I > > > > think, rests with the use of the word 'Predictor' in your subject line, > > > as > > > > it relates to the content herein. How do you think this is predicted, or > > > > what do you think it predicts, or is that simply carrying on the theme > > > from > > > > before? I found those comments to be tame, all things considered...the > > > > average prattling of some compartmentalized people whose lives have been > > > so > > > > walled in from the world that they fear everything around them which is > > > not > > > > as predictably bland as the eggshell walls and mashed potatoes that make > > > up > > > > their existence. > > > > > Now, you want comments that are scary? > > > > > Go read these comments: > > > > >http://www.stormfront.org/ > > > > > ...and tell me what the predictor of THAT is. > > > > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Thank you on the PS and thanks for the script. > > > > > "I don't think my take on this particular issue that I'm using as an > > > > > example has any bearing on the greater point." > > > > > > On Aug 17, 11:15 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > So a reasonable response could certainly have been "I don't think my > > > take > > > > > on > > > > > > this particular issue that I'm using as an example has any bearing > > > > > > on > > > the > > > > > > greater point." > > > > > > I think several folks would disagree. What's more, it may be > > > reasonable > > > > > in > > > > > > discovering what your position is on these ethnic predictors, to see > > > > > their > > > > > > effect on you. You seem rather worked up about the whole thing, so > > > that > > > > > > could be part of the issue. Instead of popping a capillary in your > > > > > temple, > > > > > > why don't you take a breath and actually think about what's being > > > asked > > > > > and > > > > > > said? You may find your frustration has been both poorly aimed, and > > > > > easily > > > > > > earned. > > > > > > > P.S. You definitely earn that thread purity champion medal fresh > > > every > > > > > day. > > > > > > You're the Usain Bolt of Thread Purity. > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 12:02 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Chris, > > > > > > > It is Not about illegal immigration. It IS about Ethnic Predictors > > > and > > > > > > > so the examples I provided are real time and show how society > > > > > > > still > > > > > > > harbors concepts that lead to "Ethnic Predictors". > > > > > > > Again I have to say there is not a shred of personal opinion here, > > > not > > > > > > > an inkling of what I'm thinking about. It is merely a > > > presentation, > > > > > > > which is available online anyway, of what people are saying > > > regarding > > > > > > > a person who is charged with "credit card and data theft." > > > > > > > Obviously people are focusing more on the "Ethnic" side of the > > > story. > > > > > > > Why is that? > > > > > > > Ethnic Predictors!!! Ethnic Predictors!!! > > > > > > > The thread is "NOT" about immigration!!! Your off track! > > > > > > > If the person was white do you think the comments would be about > > > > > > > immigration??? > > > > > > > The charge is credit card and data theft and has "Nothing" to do > > > with > > > > > > > immigration!! > > > > > > > Don't you see what the thead is about? > > > > > > > > Achtung!! > > > > > > > > On Aug 17, 10:43 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Slip, why are you so threatened? Your engagement is utterly > > > hostile, > > > > > you > > > > > > > > assume an authoritative challenge when I comment about your > > > > > > > > post, > > > and > > > > > > > noted > > > > > > > > that we were both on the same side of the issue, and it appeared > > > you > > > > > > > avoided > > > > > > > > answering the question directly. You appear to be projecting a > > > bit. I > > > > > > > don't > > > > > > > > have to be a moderator to tell you to sod off, I'll participate > > > in > > > > > any > > > > > > > > thread I damn well please, and your demand I go "sit in the > > > > > > > > back" > > > > > isn't > > > > > > > > worth the time it took you to type it. Since it's now in all of > > > our > > > > > > > emails, > > > > > > > > you can delete it on the website all you like, it will be > > > recreated > > > > > with > > > > > > > > your posts the next time someone responds to their email. > > > > > > > > Now, take a deep breath, read what I actually said to you, think > > > > > about > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > last time we talked about this subject, or hell, look at my > > > archives > > > > > here > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > the topic by checking out my username, and you'll see that all I > > > did > > > > > was > > > > > > > > note that you and I agreed that we did not favor illegal > > > immigration > > > > > > > here, > > > > > > > > so I was feeling out the specifics of your stance here, after > > > noting > > > > > a > > > > > > > > dodge. Why'd you load your shotgun for bull when there's nothing > > > here > > > > > but > > > > > > > > bunnies? > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:26 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Okay, so you made your point, now go sit in the back and let > > > others > > > > > > > > > have something to say about what others have to say. > > > > > > > > > It's a tough issue to address, a sensitive issue but maybe you > > > are > > > > > > > > > worried about something else, M.E. image perhaps. > > > > > > > > > I think it is philosophical and worthy of in depth analysis > > > > > > > > > but > > > I > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > see that most are threatened by the mere mention of it. Why > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > that? > > > > > > > > > Chris, your interpretation of the thread topic does not set > > > > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > standard for the rest of the membership, I'm sure Lonlaz would > > > have > > > > > > > > > something more pertinent to add as well as others. > > > > > > > > > If we as a society do not recognize that which is detrimental > > > to > > > > > our > > > > > > > > > society we will continue to sink down the tube. > > > > > > > > > If you want to flex your moderator muscle I will delete the > > > thread. > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 17, 10:02 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected] > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > That was a dodge, old boy. Well executed, but a dodge > > > > > nonetheless. > > > > > > > > > > You've quoted a bunch of people, and it sounds like BB asked > > > you > > > > > a > > > > > > > direct > > > > > > > > > > question after expressing his opinion. I've been pretty > > > direct > > > > > about > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > opinion regarding illegal immigration on here, and I think > > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > both we > > > > > > > > > > generally not in favor of such, if I do recall. > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Slip Disc < > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I am still not sure what you are trying to get at. <<<BB > > > > > > > > > > > > Well I'm glad you said that because I'm not trying to get > > > at > > > > > > > anything > > > > > > > > > > > but simply exposing the reality of what exists in our > > > world. > > > > > The > > > > > > > > > > > important thing here is that my threads should not be > > > > > identified > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > me. These are topics for discussion, for views. Topics > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > expand > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > the nature of these attitudes of society, of humanity and > > > the > > > > > human > > > > > > > > > > > psyche. It's "Never" about me personally, except for the > > > dream > > > > > > > > > > > thread. > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
