Could you please list the "Do-Gooders in Here", so I know who's who?

On Aug 19, 12:46 pm, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote:
>   Differences between people often come down to core philosophical
> issues. Simple ideas with vast implications.  These issues are often
> ignored or not seen.  Let me take the example of Cuba, just as an
> illustration.  They have free  health care and free university
> education yet there are many of those people that decided to risk
> their very LIVES on a piece of  wood through shark infested waters to
> get here, where there is no government health care.  The core
> philosophy must be examined.  We owe it to each other to dig down to
> core philosophical positions, rather than assuming you know everything
> and what is “right.”
>
>    You do-gooders in here do not like to discuss money.  You think
> money is not the issue or even "an" issue.  I claim that money and all
> the philosophical issues that go with it cannot be ignored, and are in
> fact a central factor in all of human activity.  It is global. It is
> part of the man-made system.  We need to talk about it, because it is
> part of the equation.  It cannot be left out.
>
>       Many believe in “universal” rights,  and include government
> health care as one of those.   As I mentioned, here is the US we have
> a “right to bear arms.”   Is that universal?   I am not a gun fan, but
> I think the “right to self defense” IS a universal right.  You entrust
> a government to “enforce” rights.
> Well, I do not think governments can be trusted to do so,  and often
> do not make the “right” choices.   Invading Iraq was a “nationalized”
> government plan too.  Not everyone was for it, but because the
> government is what it is,  that was what happened.  I do not consider
> that a good thing.  Governments do not have the best answers quite
> often, and this needs a full debate.   Engaging in that debate MUST
> include “core philosophy” as that is where the differences really lie.
>
>   Core ideas are often not out in the open. They must be dug for in
> some cases.  I don’t see enough digging.  I see people who have
> already concluded, based on their core philosophies, and have no
> intention of examining or “finding out” why those they oppose think
> the way they do.  We are not so good at articulating these things,
> but we should try to become better at it.
>
>    Some core “rights” and ideas conflict with other core ideas and
> rights.  This needs to be resolved or compromised in some way.  Just
> another example:  “we as a society need to do X”    I have big
> problems with these kinds of statements.  Just at my core level,
> “We” trumps the individual.
>
>     I will stop here for now.  Just needed to get that off my chest.
> This little post is in no way my “response” to all the vile, nasty,
> rude accusations from the vastly different core philosophies of all
> you people out there that chose to ignore my core philosophical
> issues.  You  deserve much better, I will try to get to them all.
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