I've seen quite a few things lately that relay the message, "life is in the living, " including the 1999 movie Sunshine, in which Ralph Fiennes plays three roles, family members of three generations in Hungary, all caught between love of country and political upheaval. A good view and worth the time investment. Indeed, purpose or necessity of life can be questionable, and yet, we continue to live it.
On Aug 20, 11:47 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > On 19 Aug, 18:46, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Differences between people often come down to core philosophical > > issues. Simple ideas with vast implications. These issues are often > > ignored or not seen. Let me take the example of Cuba, just as an > > illustration. They have free health care and free university > > education yet there are many of those people that decided to risk > > their very LIVES on a piece of wood through shark infested waters to > > get here, where there is no government health care. The core > > philosophy must be examined. We owe it to each other to dig down to > > core philosophical positions, rather than assuming you know everything > > and what is “right.” > > > You do-gooders in here do not like to discuss money. You think > > money is not the issue or even "an" issue. I claim that money and all > > the philosophical issues that go with it cannot be ignored, and are in > > fact a central factor in all of human activity. It is global. It is > > part of the man-made system. We need to talk about it, because it is > > part of the equation. It cannot be left out. > > > Many believe in “universal” rights, and include government > > health care as one of those. As I mentioned, here is the US we have > > a “right to bear arms.” Is that universal? I am not a gun fan, but > > I think the “right to self defense” IS a universal right. You entrust > > a government to “enforce” rights. > > Well, I do not think governments can be trusted to do so, and often > > do not make the “right” choices. Invading Iraq was a “nationalized” > > government plan too. Not everyone was for it, but because the > > government is what it is, that was what happened. I do not consider > > that a good thing. Governments do not have the best answers quite > > often, and this needs a full debate. Engaging in that debate MUST > > include “core philosophy” as that is where the differences really lie. > > > Core ideas are often not out in the open. They must be dug for in > > some cases. I don’t see enough digging. I see people who have > > already concluded, based on their core philosophies, and have no > > intention of examining or “finding out” why those they oppose think > > the way they do. We are not so good at articulating these things, > > but we should try to become better at it. > > > Some core “rights” and ideas conflict with other core ideas and > > rights. This needs to be resolved or compromised in some way. Just > > another example: “we as a society need to do X” I have big > > problems with these kinds of statements. Just at my core level, > > “We” trumps the individual. > > > I will stop here for now. Just needed to get that off my chest. > > This little post is in no way my “response” to all the vile, nasty, > > rude accusations from the vastly different core philosophies of all > > you people out there that chose to ignore my core philosophical > > issues. You deserve much better, I will try to get to them all. > > I suppose my core beliefs can be summarised by the phrase: "There is > Only One". Although there's room for the corrolary: "We're all in > this together." and the derivable: "Existence alone validates > universal necessity." > There, that ought to be enough to stir something in a few {especially > that last one, as it's the most potentially volatile}. ;-) --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
